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Best Electricity Plan for new EV Owners

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,463 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    The hdf file is available from the esbn site. Go to esbn.ie and create an account once you have that done you can download the hdf file and upload it to energypal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,463 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    You'll need a day/night meter. Flogas will submit a request to esbn for your meter to be changed, they're one of the better companies and will actually do it for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭garyskeepers


    Hey All,.


    Not sure where else to post this. I'm waiting on my meter to be upgraded so i can get a charger installed at the side of the house. In the meantime, I'm stuck charging this with a regular socket.

    My question is this.

    I charge the car (50KWH Peugeot 2008 GT) about twice per week. Usually takes about 10 hours. At a rate of about 30cent per kwh,. This shouldn't see an increase in 400 units per month should it?

    I'm eh……….. mid investigation on why, since I've switched networks from Prepay power to energia, my usage went up by over 400 units (double) in one month, granted I charge the car twice per week instead of once per week last month.

    Sorry if this is not the right area, but charging the electric car is the only difference here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    I'm on an Energia 18c night rate 11pm-8am. We charge two EVS (night on, night off) during the night and it works out well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,517 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    50 kw? Twice a week? 100kw extra every week..4 weeks in a month.. 400kw?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭garyskeepers


    So a full charge from 0-100% (which is never the case) would that be 50 kw ? I know it's a 50 KWH battery but was never sure how that broke down to an hours charging



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭D_D


    You can charge at home on a Level 2 AC charger at a rate of 7.4kW. So for a 50kWh battery, that would take approx. 6.5 - 7hrs to charge from 0 to 100%.

    A home plug socket charging at 13A can charge at a rate of about 3kW, so that would take 16 - 17hrs to charge from 0 to 100%.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭tommythecat


    Well it's not to do with how long you charge it's how much electricity you use. If it takes you 10 hrs to charge the 50kwh or it takes you 4 hours it's still the same amount of usage. So your figures are correct,you used 400kwh to charge the car.

    4kwp South East facing PV System. 5.3kwh Weco battery. South Dublin City.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 kermi2009


    Did it take long before you got the extra discount email? I assume you spotted filling in your details at the bank account info?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,463 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    It took about 2 days, yes I stopped before entering financial details.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,672 ✭✭✭✭JPA


    A kWh is a unit of electricity, the units you see on your bill.

    2x50x4 = 400.

    So it's 100% spot on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 irishguy1012


    Hello,

    1. I have smart meter, solar panels and a zappi for the EV
    2. I switched to Home Electric+ Night Boost EV plan (see image below)

    Question: Does electric Ireland treat ALL appliances to be charged at 10.47c during that time or just the EV? The reason I ask is because my smart meter data as displayed on Electric Ireland's website doesn't show the EV.


    Thanks,

    K

    Screenshot 2024-10-09 at 23.20.22.png


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,858 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    all devices. It doesn’t know if you’re charging the car or running the shower.

    Post edited by liamog on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭fafy


    You can get a standing charge of circa €100 less per annum, with Energia smart drive, and a much more flexible 4 hours (versus 2)per night rate of 7.54 inc vat, for more than 1000 kWh night boost units, in a bi monthly period, it increases slightly to 8.67 cent inc vat. Energia day rate is 33.86 inc vat, versus 36.15 with EI

    in addition, Energia pay 24 cent for export, versus 21 with EI.

    Factor all that in, and for most people with solar pv and ev, this will exceed, the €350 welcome credit from EI on this plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,283 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    This was an extremely good plan if I remember correctly. Unfortunately when I clicked today it said 'no longer available'.

    Are there any other plans that aren't easy to find out there please?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭the goon


    Hi there, trying to figure out what the best plan is for me using energy pal and as a not so tech savy person, is the below based on the half hourly file I uploaded and so telling me Bord Gais would seem to be cheapest based on my usage? Thanks in advance;

    Screenshot 2024-10-31 141653.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,534 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Short answer, yes

    Just be aware that you'll want a full year of smart data for Energypal to be accurate

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    Yeah if you got that far then you shoudl be ok but as The Raisin said to get the most accurate estimation then you need a years worth of data. For me when I uploaded in actual fact it was the energia Smart plan was the cheapest but by only about €200 but I knew that I could without much effort shift all my EV usage into the 2- 5pm slot. Where as before I was starting to charge my EV at 11pm when the night rate came on. Have a look at some of the tabs the historical import analyis shows a nice heat graph of where your usage is at, you might have to do some more numbers yourself and take an educated guess as which would be the best for you.

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    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,189 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    My current energia 1 year smart plan is due to finish in mid December but I'm going to be moving house in Jan/Feb. Is it worth signing up to some other provider and then getting hit with an early contract termination fee? Any other options?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 438 ✭✭pad406


    Could you string them out for a few months? Not enter a new contract but continue with them?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    Do nothing and just let the existing contract rollover to a 30 day contract then cancel whenever suits you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,189 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    That's the plan but lose the 15% discount 1 year offer after mid December unless I switch or enter a new 1 year contract with Energia. Not the end of the world, just means paying more for electricity at an already peak usage time of year. I might ring them and see if I do go for another 1 year contract acan I bring it with me to the new house



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Pete123456


    Energia will allow a breakout without fee if your moving and you don’t have to know where you’re going to tell them - perhaps others would too? Would save you the breakout and keep your rates low perhaps?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    Just checking now with energypal.ie as I have a months data to see did I pick the right plan. Using my prvious 12months consumptions data it said that Energia would have been the cheapest but I know I could shift my load profile easily into the cheap 6.33cent Bord Gais rate and it would make them the cheapest anyway after a month it confirms that Bord Gais would be the best for me phew!! these number dont take in my FIT as BG do that every 6months!

    Current prediction from Energypal using 1 months data…

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    Previous energypal.ie estimation using my previous 12 months data, showing energia the best.

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    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭S'


    Have you a battery? I take it you have a heat pump for home heating with your high import?

    Here's a screenshot of mine. Oil heating and EV.

    2024-11-04_10-12.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Was having a look on ESB and noticed a meter reading saying MCC change for when I renewed with Energia. I was previously on the smart dual fuel plan and just signed up for the same, previous was MCC002. Not sure what the new MCC is now but there was zero indication of any change, just a confirmation that I was signing up to a. smart plan and can't go back, but I was already on a smart D/N plan for solar so as far as I understand it made no difference to me.

    I understand people renewing on the phone were told they can't stay on a D/N plan but this is where the confusion lies. As far as I know smart D/N meters can't have time of use smart plans (peak rates). So I'm not sure what the difference is or why it matters if I'm on a standard smart D/N plan?

    I don't really care what MCC I'm on once it doesn't effect me being on standard D/N plans. Time of use plans are no use to me.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,414 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    When a smart DN is moved to a smart plan, it becomes like every other smart meter,

    And the plans available to it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    Yeah I have a heat pump all electric house and those numbers you have shown there are very impressive…I do need a battery and thats the plan hopfully next year. Big outlay required even if I go down the DIY battery route, I would need a 30 kWh at least. I have the 16 kVA connection so that will help a lot in filling that thing 😎

    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,283 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    Hi,

    Finally want to make a decision, anyone able to give an opinion please as it's compliacted….

    Currently wiht Yuno, about €300 monthly.

    I got an EV and a Zappi charger at the end of March. I'm using Energy Pal but wondering to get a realistic result should I input a HDF-

    • from the date I started using the Zappi. Obciously takes into account amount of charging
    • last 12 months. Includes last winter but also 5 months without EV charging and would be higher use in winter….

    I'm getting 20 solar panels at the start of Dec. I'm fully WFH, 2 days per working week others home from 2:30.


    Doing 2,700km per month on the EV (Tesla). A long night rate window would be great as full charge takes about 7 hours. Otherwise I guess could charge about 50% one night and 50% next….

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    This is past 12 months:

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    And this since started using the EV charger:

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    Thanks in advance



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    To simplify it a bit for you Bord Gais EV tariff is very competitive. Pinergy and Energia also have competitive EV tariffs but their rates are higher out with the EV window.

    https://www.bordgaisenergy.ie/home/our-plans/a0pSh0000009TkNIAU?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAlsy5BhDeARIsABRc6ZvO1wnbOhONDfD_e95Ph7AML5VW2wynK0Zo6w_RnbiZI1VCzOAasF8aArAiEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

    The BG tariff works out around 21 cents per kWh on average outside the EV rate. I have a similar tariff with Flogas minus the EV rate. I discount the peak rate as it has little effect on the calculation.

    I too have solar (without battery). I sell all the excess to the grid and with the credit received offset power when the sun is not shining. Don't bother with a battery for now, it won't pay for itself with FIT rates the way they are.



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