Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

Never suggested she was an unknown figure, but 108 days to run a Presidential Campaign is tight before you even consider the circumstances surrounding it.

Trump has been campaigning in essence for nearly 4 years.

couldnt disagree more about the level of worry here if Trump wins.

Conveniently forgetting that Crimea and chunks of the Donbass were under Russian occupation through the whole of Trumps term. And the only thing he did was extort Zelensky to try and dig up dirt on Biden.

And for some reason now Trump supporters on here think that strongman Trump will do what? Make Putin leave Ukraine somehow?

Far more likely is he'll sell Ukraine out and let Putin keep the chunks of Zaporizhzhia and Kherson(indeed JD Vance is on record saying as much). Including the people living there who will then subsequently be genocided by Russia. If you think that sounds like a good idea then you're not reachable.

Not that I believe for a second that you're even slightly worried for Ukraine.

I suspect "ab imo" is the likely source.

What pray tell is the conclusion you're implying? Cause sounds somewhat like you're making a connection between this and lockdowns which is making a leap. I'm sure it'll be ab phenomena that will be studied but implying causation is a leap.

Terrible revisionism. We all lived it and have you know, long term memory.

'safer' in air quotes

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54187961

Regarding "Nazi slurs from the left" lol

A montage of Trump slurring Harris as a 'marxist, a communist, a fascist'

Revisionism and holding both candidates to asymmetric standards of decorum. Let's nevermind the fact she hasn't called him a Nazi eh?

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-826751

Why are they saying Trump will be both the 45th and 47th President if he wins? Surely its just another term for the 45th? Arent they counting people not terms - many Presidents have served 2 terms.

I think that posted is no longer on here, but I would have liked to ask why it was Trump's own VP wasn't campaigning for him...

That's the way presidencies are counted; he'd be emulating this guy

Trump is also alleging voter fraud in Pennsylvania. Perhaps that's a sign the polling isn't showing what he wants it to..

If they really believed they were going to win, they wouldn't be setting fire to ballots, they wouldn't be … waving around motherf*n machetes to intimidate voters.

https://www.mediaite.com/election-2024/cops-bust-machete-wielding-man-who-showed-up-at-florida-polling-station-to-antagonize-democrats/

Williams was charged with aggravated assault on a person 65 years of age or older and improper exhibition of a firearm or dangerous weapon. The group, according to Key, were there “for no other reason but for ill intentions, to cause a disturbance.” The seven other boys did not engage in any activities that would “cross the criminal threshold.” Key also made a statement regarding freedom of expression during a heated political campaign:

He is a registered Republican.

The women were reportedly outside the polling place, holding Harris signs, when they were threatened with the machete. Florida only restricts political solicitation within 150 feet of the polling places (other states vary, eg. SC is 500 feet). Evidently, the women were doing nothing wrong when they were assaulted by the teen, accompanied by 7 other 16-18 year olds.

You can guess how the parents vote.

Arnie has spoken. It's a long tweet so I post it here.

I don’t really do endorsements. I’m not shy about sharing my views, but I hate politics and don’t trust most politicians.

I also understand that people want to hear from me because I am not just a celebrity, I am a former Republican Governor.My time as Governor taught me to love policy and ignore politics.

I’m proud of the work I did to help clean up our air, create jobs, balance the budget, make the biggest infrastructure investment in state history, and take power from the politicians and give it back to the people when it comes to our redistricting process and our primaries in California. That’s policy.

It requires working with the other side, not insulting them to win your next election, and I know it isn’t sexy to most people, but I love it when I can help make people’s lives better with policies, like I still do through my institute at USC, where we fight for clean air and stripping the power from the politicians who rig the system against the peope.

Let me be honest with you: I don’t like either party right now. My Republicans have forgotten the beauty of the free market, driven up deficits, and rejected election results. Democrats aren’t any better at dealing with deficits, and I worry about their local policies hurting our cities with increased crime.It is probably not a surprise that I hate politics more than ever, which, if you are a normal person who isn’t addicted to this crap, you probably understand.I want to tune out.But I can’t. Because rejecting the results of an election is as un-American as it gets.

To someone like me who talks to people all over the world and still knows America is the shining city on a hill, calling America is a trash can for the world is so unpatriotic, it makes me furious. And I will always be an American before I am a Republican.That’s why, this week, I am voting for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.

I’m sharing it with all of you because I think there are a lot of you who feel like I do. You don’t recognize our country. And you are right to be furious.For decades, we’ve talked about the national debt. For decades, we’ve talked about comprehensive immigration reform that secures the border while fixing our broken immigration system. And Washington does nothing.

The problems just keep rolling, and we all keep getting angrier, because the only people that benefit from problems aren’t you, the people. The only people that benefit from this crap are the politicians who prefer having talking points to win elections to the public service that will make Americans’ lives better. It is a just game to them.

But it is life for my fellow Americans. We should be pissed!But a candidate who won’t respect your vote unless it is for him, a candidate who will send his followers to storm the Capitol while he watches with a Diet Coke, a candidate who has shown no ability to work to pass any policy besides a tax cut that helped his donors and other rich people like me but helped no one else else, a candidate who thinks Americans who disagree with him are the bigger enemies than China, Russia, or North Korea - that won’t solve our problems.

It will just be four more years of bullshit with no results that makes us angrier and angrier, more divided, and more hateful.We need to close the door on this chapter of American history, and I know that former President Trump won’t do that. He will divide, he will insult, he will find new ways to be more un-American than he already has been, and we, the people, will get nothing but more anger.

That’s enough reason for me to share my vote with all of you. I want to move forward as a country, and even though I have plenty of disagreements with their platform, I think the only way to do that is with Harris and Walz.Vote this week. Turn the page and put this junk behind us. And even if you disagree with me, vote, because that’s what we do as Americans.

So hard to call this one, on paper I feel Trump has squeaked ahead (and have placed a bet on that), but there are signs from the other side that e.g. there are record amounts of early voters and mail in ballots (which lean slightly towards Dem)

Pollsters can gauge the mood but they can't predict actual footfall. Anyway if Trump wins I make some money, if he doesn't, great.