Israel are going to start WWIII

Agree with you re: the ICJ. If the ICJ rules in favour of Israel, where does that leave the people, and the countries more importantly, who are accusing them of genocide?

If, by the lottery of life, you had been unfortunate to have been born under the zionist boot, there is a reasonable chance that you'd be among that 30,000 …….. had the zionists not murdered or maimed you before you grew old enough.

You might think that's nonsense, but the Brits might have just as easily had the brainwave to solve the "Jewish problem" by gifting them large swathes of Ireland.

What will you say if Israel is not cleared and they are found guilty of genocide?

And what if Netanyahu and Gallant are found guilty of war crimes?

Israel has already been brought before the ICJ. The case was determined as "plausible" by the ICJ who issued directives against Israel in the interim.

They did that because there was a suspicion of wrongdoing.

And what Israel has done since (forced starvation etc.) is even worse.

This is absolutely not about bullying anyone. This is about people recognising what Israel is doing and expressing their revulsion of the inhumanity of it.

It "leaves" SA nowhere.

SA have a legal obligation to report genocide to the ICJ.

ICJ found their case plausible. There are no repercussions for SA whatever judgement the ICJ comes to.

sounds like iran is still processing Israels response .. latest news from iran is they are looking at trippling their military budget .. what is amazing is how much info israel has about iran's military sites - they must have good spies, satellites or plenty of US help....

Israel’s attack on Iran likely damaged a base run by the paramilitary Revolutionary Guard that builds ballistic missiles and launches rockets as part of its own space program

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/International/wireStory/satellite-photos-show-israeli-strike-hit-important-iran-115253981

A very strange post.

I can certainly understand a Jewish person being upset if the Holocaust numbers were incorrectly refererred to at a low number, such as 500,000, that's just plain old fashioned Holocaust denial.

What I don't understand is somebody taking affront at a potential over-estimation of Nazi Jew-killing intentions during the war.

Do you really think that if they could have got their hands on Australian or American Jews they would have been treated anyway different?

Regardless, your 'facts' are wrong.

Thw Wannsee drew up a list of 11 million Jews for extermination, including 5 million in the Soviet Union. There was no escaping for any Jew, anywhere.

the army that could put explosives in the pagers of 3000 members of Hezbollah (the reality is many were just normal men women and children, but they love murdering children) could not know about an attack by people on home made hand gliders, coming out of the open air prison that is Gaza. Also the somehow managed to take 100's of hostages. This was always about murdering as many women and children as possible. Horrid people and country

Bear in mind that many of the accusations made about what Hamas did on that day have been debunked (beheaded babies, babies in ovens, pregnant woman's foetus cut out of her belly etc.) - I make that point only to illustrate that Israel will lie about anything to justify what they do.

This is textbook. You acknowledge Oct 7th only to deny it in the same sentance. Go onto any pro-hamas twitter feed or forum and this is the typical line of attack. Every time anyone accentuates the debunked beheaded babies story, they erode the horror of Oct 7th even more, which is the real intention.

You even ended up at the same endpoint as the seething anti-zionist massess, that you just can't trust the Jews. The next logical step is 'Hannibel directive' and the Jews killed everyone themselves. Did OCT 7th actually happen or is it another Zionist conspiracy. Not saying you, but that's the endpoint for a lot of these people.

You've mentioned a few times that "Hamas should do this", Hezbollah should do that", have you once considered saying "Israel should stop doing this"?

Have you once considered laying the entire blame for the continuing death toll in Gaza on a bunch of Islamic Jihadists who do not care one jot about their own people, and that constantly attcking Israel rather than the true genocidal maniacs is providing succor to a bunch of maniacs at a time of war, and indeed prolonging the war.

Until then, Israel will defend itself from attack

." This is one example of many - yesterday an 11 year was killed or throwing pebbles at a military vehicle and he was shot dead by the IDF. Do you honestly believe that by killing an 11-year old boy, Israel is defending itself?

A completly dishonest question. Israel is fighting a war. It's defending itself against Hamas, not 11-year old's. If that incident is true then that would constitute a war crime and the individual who committed it should be prosecuted. Constantly highlighting such individual actions only distracts from the larger problem, the war, and Hamas refusal to surrender and bring the bloodshed to an end, and the unwillingness of the Palestinian Political class to exert pressure on them to do so.

The war could end tomorrow, but as i said before, given the choice of a Hamas surrender and the end of the deaths of Palestinain children or more war, Hamas and it's legion of online supporters will always choose Hamas 'right to resist' above the lives of children.

Your post was pretty good until I read "a completely dishonest question" - which makes your post completely dishonest and not worth debating.

If I was playing the 'disinformation game', which i wasn't, the only people I tarred were National Socialists, which seems to upset you for some reason.

That answers the second question. For your follow up, prison is fine.

You might answer the first question.

I'm delighted (genuinely) to hear that you would not be pushing for the death penalty. I can't answer the first question. I haven't thought about it much because I don’t believe they’re guilty. Leave it with me.

Why are you having a pop at me? I posed the question. The split is on your side of the debate. As for facts, I've added plenty. Scroll through the thread to see them. Have you seen photos of Gaza pre-October 7th?

They are being attacked and bombed and starved on a daily basis by a terrorist state. I'd nearly be supporting Hamas myself at this point if I was there (as reprehensible as the latter are).