Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

I love everybody, got no hate in my heart and shall leave in peace, slan.

Do you not get it at this stage? Perception is EVERYTHING.

The only thing that matters in this whole election campaign is who gets over the winning line - that’s all, nothing else matters.

Voters perceptions are THEIR reality. Yes I know your reality is different and yes, I totally get that Harris is a far more “fit” person to be president when compared to Trumps personal life- but that doesn’t matter - what matters is how voters perceive - that’s all that matters.

I don’t know where you’re getting that I think Harris should lie - I’m just pointing out how Trumps near year of campaigning at this stage and repetitive messaging false and all that it may be, has finally trickled down to some of the least likely voters - that’s all

State Corporatism isn't one of the signs of Fascism from the Holocaust Memorial Museum…

Do you believe that in history there have only been 2 fascists, Mussolini and Hitler?

Mussolini was a nailed-on Corporatist, just like Salazar was in Portugal.

His credentials are this: American political scientist and historian specializing in Vichy France, fascism, and Europe during the World War II era. He is Mellon Professor Emeritus of Social Science in the Department of History at Columbia University. 

Trump has progressed beyond the 'gimme gimme' stage, or rather he is willing to use fascist acts as part of 'gimme gimme' power. Is someone willing to use fascist acts to achieve political ends and power a fascist?
Not much point splitting that hair is there.

As I stated earlier, Trump's actions are more likely to lead to a civil war. Hitler believed that a war in Europe was a means to an end, so it's a pretty massive hair to split, IMO.

I don't know what that means.

Trump is a danger to democracy in the US, the rule of law, and its constitutional order. This is not my opinion alone, it is backed up by expert opinion, it is backed by Trump's former closest staff and a retied general.

He already tried to subvert one election, by demanding illegal acts of subordinates and by inciting violence.

Whatever 'ism' you want to describe that as is secondary to recognising that danger.

I don't put much weight in to the fact that Kamala ran 4 yrs ago, I feel in every campaign there are people who are making a name for themselves, testing the water, expressing an interest etc and Harris in all likelihood was doing something along those lines. I wouldn't be surprised to see Pete Buttigeig, Nikky Haley attempt to do so in future, or possibly even Tulsi Gabbard attempting to get on the Republican ticket after failing to get on the Democrat one. Although I think that that is unlikely.

I'm much less confident about the security of the system than you are. All that stopped Trump achieving his goal of overriding the result of the last election was a VP willing to support him and to ignore slates of electors that were offered. I'm not saying it would have been easy, but so many of the necessary things for that to happen did happen, the states preparing different electoral slates, Senators, refusing to accept the 'official' electors offered and so on. There is nothing to suggest that if Pence had acted as Trump wished that senior Republicans such as McCarthy, McConnel et al would have called a halt. They both blamed Trump for Jan 6th, but then refused to hold him responsible and I feel if he had managed to gain control of events on Jan 6th, they would have allowed the SC to become involved knowing it would be in their favour.

We are agreed with respect to Trump's potential influence on international relations and I hold Biden hugely responsible for the unrestrained actions of Israel in the Middle East.

As I've already hinted, I personally feel that too many Conservatives have been forgiving of Trump and his actions and instead of sought to blame the Democrats for either misrepresentation of those actions, or for persecuting him. Like, the conservatives would have us believe that they are the party of Law & Order but they have resolutely refused to apply this to Trump and his actions. For the most part. Also, some of the cases pursued against Trump have been done under the jurisdiction of republican appointed personnel so again, this idea that it is a Democrat initiated and guided act is false. I do feel the Democrats should have done better in communicating this to the public so there was little room for the muddying of the waters around it.

In terms of the risk of the US turning in to a fascist or dictatorial country. I don't think that that is likely to happen at the most obvious level. As I said earlier, fascism shouldn't be considered in a Black and White way of you're either Hitler, or your fine. But that doesn't mean it can't move in that direction or that states couldn't select more dictatorial practices (such as they are doing around abortion) because of having been enabled or emboldened at the federal level. I don't buy the conservative position that they desire less government interference, (certainly some do) but rather they want the government interference to be of the sort that they support. Again, the abortion conversation is evidence of what I am talking about in this respect. Or the banning of books, or the placing of specific models of bibles in schools as being mandatory for example.

As for the outcome, I'm still none the wiser, I think it will come down to who goes to vote, not who has changed their mind and selected someone to vote for.

Well no. At this stage the sound strategy is to do both.

Trump by not toning down the crazy is playing directly into Harris's hands.

His fascist rhetoric needs be called out at every opportunity for the next 2 weeks.

Focus the mind of the undecides and ward them off voting for Trump.