Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022 - Read OP

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This passed tonight ,shows you the type of sham democracy we have when they've clearly done everything they can to get this legislation through before they potentially lose their majority in the upcoming election ,knowing full well that it isn't a piece of legislation strongly supported by the electorate.

It’s absolutely outrageous that the whims of NGO’s are the governments priority when enacting legislation in this country. Is it any wonder why so many are falling down conspiracy theory rabbit holes. Why the mad rush to ram this legislation through when it’s so widely unpopular. I have yet to met one person in real life who supports it.

Vote was 78 to 50

32 TDs failed to turn up and vote.

We have a controversial piece of legislation and 32 of our representatives decided it wasn't worth their time to bother turning up to do their jobs.

ContemptibIe behaviour from each of them, particularly as we have a piece of legislation that was not passed by the majority in the Dail

Here is the list of the people who voted! Don't see Simon Harris or Micheal Martin on the list?

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/vote/dail/33/2024-10-23/152/

Here is who voted no: -

Sinn Féin vote against.

Here is a list of the 30 no shows! (Thought it was 32).

Source. ~~ Disclaimer showing a source of the list, not an endorsement of the account!

A great development and positive move from the government. I had a few pints with some mates today to celebrate. The incoming hate speech laws will be glorious and will see many chancers and grifters taken to task.

Refund 90% of GAA clubs? I doubt that be too popular with the country folk.

@aero2k Was requesting the list, so might be useful to some? Those TDs will also be categorised as Yes votes, to highlight the significance of their absence, since they didn't show to vote against it.

Nobody was clamoring for a hate crime or hate speech law? Really? You might want to take a step outside your bubble. The fact is, the majority of people do care about it. These laws aren’t about catering to some mysterious minority—unless, of course, you mean the far right, who couldn’t even scrape together more than 0.42% of the vote. Yep, that’s right, the "minority" you’re talking about is you and your little echo chamber.

It’s kind of amusing, though, seeing the far right crying on this forum about "pleasing the minority" when you all are exactly the fringe group everyone’s trying to regulate. The truth is, the majority of people actually want laws to crack down on hate speech and hate crimes. Why? Because your kind of rhetoric is toxic, spreading misinformation and stirring up hate. Racist people who spew this garbage need to be held accountable. Maybe if your ideas were even remotely popular, they wouldn’t need to pass laws to protect society from them, but here we are.

So yeah, these laws are about putting an end to the kind of rhetoric that you and your buddies can’t seem to stop spouting. Maybe if you'd gotten more than 0.42%, you’d have a voice, but until then, you’re just proving why these laws are necessary.

Oh please, spare us the "majority don’t care" routine. The fact that laws like this exist proves that most people do care about stopping hate speech—especially to curb the kind of rhetoric that you and your far-right pals keep spouting. Let’s not pretend your 0.42% of voters represent the masses. People are fed up with racist misinformation and want laws to shut it down. You can keep pretending you're the voice of the majority, but the numbers say otherwise.

Can you explain what issues you have with this bill being passed? How will it affect you day to day etc. as you seem very passionate about it.

What part of this might in a million years ever effect you?