Luas Finglas

Well given all we are likely have for likely the next hundred years is ffg governance, maybe now, they actually will actually start to deliver infrastructure...

Our best chance of meeting climate targets is building PT and energy infrastructure no?

There should be quality electric powered PT available to everyone in the city’s- that’s what we should be aiming for.

Well you can blame the planning process and ABP which would be correct, but how many times did Eamon highlight this?
How many times did he put pressure on Darragh o Brien to take ownership of the issue?

And that would have achieved exactly what?

That Luas... Finglas, you say?

Enough of the Green-bashing, please. We all know there's an election coming. I deliberately don't go near the political forums here for a reason...

could the last few pages be moved to a separate "What have the Greens ever done for us" thread?

Mod: Given that there is a GE about to be declared in the next week or so, and this is not a politics forum, then such a thread will not be allowed. It would just degenerate to a stream of anti-Green nastiness. It would add nothing to anything.

Is there any details on the route it will take from Broombridge to over the valley in Tolka Valley park? I don't mean the route in general, but just from Broombridge to the park.

Thanks for that

7 years for 4km of tram track. Our system is broken. Too much beauracracy and every Tom, Dick and Harry NIMBY gets to stick their ore in and obstruct and delay with objections and endless court cases and judicial reviews. That's only after the ludicrous length of the planning process.

It's actually an emergency for the state now and our future prospects.

There's two pinch points with this plan. The area at Mellowes Road where it goes very close to some houses, and probably the pitch at St Helenas.

That's where I can judicial reviews, unless that new planning bill stops them

It does have to go over Tolka Valley Park, which is a valley. Can't imagine that's cheap.

As you’ve quoted it in Dollars, I'm guessing that that $50M/km (source, please?) is a global average, and includes a range of projects, from greenfield to ones like Luas Finglas that has to negotiate an existing urban environment. Heavy LRT investment in China, where construction costs are artificially suppressed by indirect subsidies, is also going to pull that figure down.

Short line projects will always have higher per kilometre costs than long ones, because they need the same setup and teardown tasks as a big project, and structure costs on bigger projects are divided into a longer overall length of track. €300 million would be a low estimate for a short line that has two major bridges on it, at Grand Canal, and Tolka Valley.