Dispute with mod

You're not fair, that's my opinion. I laid out my cases quite clearly. What was fair about how you handled the latest dispute? You came in saying you weren't going to help and then denied anyone else the chance to give an opinion which I had asked for.

I'm still waiting on the examples of abuse of mods and admin which I asked for?

I responded to El Gato De Negocios this morning. It was a bad example to use because it had nothing to do with my dispute, so I made a quick edit, and used antagonistic as it was mentioned in their post.

Lo and behold, a quick warning from you for "personal abuse". Calling someone antagonistic constitutes personal abuse now. Right. 🙄

And a second separate warning this morning from another mod in the space of about half an hour. The Hive isn't happy.

"The disputes are visible for all to see" because I posted them here. How many people actually frequent the Dispute Resolution Archive?

And what is there to lay out exactly anyway? You read a comment and you just know it doesn't warrant a warning. Like the nonsense warning the original poster made in this thread.

"3-3. Oh ya!" First dispute.

"You could have said that about the FA Cup final." Second dispute you closed.

I think this post is hilarious, and quite the example of the modern day discourse.

In old days, it would be a reply along the lines of,

My bad, apologies for insinuating you're a liar, let's move on

Instead I get a post telling me I should distance myself from my trans friends as we don't agree with everything.

And people wonder why the world is more and more partisan these days.

I am very comfortable in my personal boundaries with all my friends, thank you for your concern. It's why we can talk openly with each other.

True story, I was best man at my friend's wedding recently. He married an English, Brexit supporting Tory who's hero is Margaret Thatcher. Should I cut contact with him because I don't approve of his husbands beliefs? No! But we're grown up about it, and we just don't talk politics. If you remove the politics, he's a lovely polite, generous, charitable man.

I apparently did miss that post, and the post where you apologised for saying the story was made up, and insinuating I'm a liar.

I'm not expecting one, of course, because thats the world where we live now. Few admit when they're wrong and even less apologise for being wrong.

So it goes.

What generalisations?

The one about people not apologising?

It's very true. I replied to you explaining how you are wrong, and instead of taking the opportunity there to apologise for saying I made the story up, you said I should distance myself from my trans friends, and didn't apologise until I coaxed it out of you!

Just let it go. Move on. This isn't the thread for it.

Apology accepted, thanks.

This seems to have descended into a dispute between posters thread😄 Is this thread supposed to replace the previous dispute resolutions thread? The issue with the lack of mods in CA appears to have discussed for the last few months in feedback with no resolution.

I'd say if you looked back and looked at the posters who you were arguing with, doing exactly the same thing or usually worse, most will not have been sanctioned. Theres no consistency.

Do you know what I do? I put those posters on ignore and avoid any forum with certain mods. Because for some reason they sniper out minor infractions while ignoring a torrent of personal abuse from other posters. Given up on reporting, that's broken.

Theres certain posters spamming the same subjects and a high % of their posts will break the rules. Making threads unusable.

And threads like this, or about the site being broken while popular, are at the end of the day pointless.

Historically, Id have agreed with you when it comes to the SF. There was a now ex mod who very much ground his axe when it came to one section of posters while favoring another. Hes thankfully now out to pasture and the current SF mod team and the forum itself is running as well as I have ever seen it in my near 20 years posting on Boards. The annual feedback thread for the last 2 years has basically echoed the sentiment that the forum is running well with the obvious trolls being dealt with. The only concern people raised really was the fact that the forum itself was, post vanilla, completely hidden to non members. The mods took this feedback on board and its now open to all posters once they have I think 50 posts and are around for more than a month.

The SF can and should be held up as an example of how a divisive forum should be moderated. Naturally, you will get a few people that cannot deal with it (case in point in this thread) but when the vast majority of the regular posters are content with the forum and its moderation, thats all that matters.

I think this is a perfect example of the sort of noise generator that causes issues in most threads. I would go back to my idea of a daily post limit for some of the busy fora, such as Soccer or CA.

Im talking specifically about the SF in my last post because at this stage, Id estimate approx 90% of my posts on boards are in there. Obviously there are issues, perceived or otherwise with the CA forum. I fully accept that soccer in the main isn't / wouldn't be as contentious as politics, gender identity, immigration or the other busy topics. Likewise, the volume of contributors in the CA forum massively overshadows the active SF posters. My point was that there were long term issues in the SF, the mods agreed a newer approach and as a result, most regulars are satisfied with it.

It's worse than that. They act like judge, jury and executioner. I opened a dispute before against Beasty, only for them to come along, absolved themselves of any wrongdoing and shut it down. 🎪

I frequently post in the Nintendo forum. IDK, but I'd be surprised if a mod has had to take any action there in months. But then there are other forums, where some mods are like trigger happy jobsworths just looking to issue petty/unfair warnings.

yes. They do. Under vanilla it pops up as a notification they’ve been quoted in a post and, having access to the stream of reported posts for the entire website, it goes there. It’s a serious if not crippling problem with the way the website is set up but I wouldn’t expect a resolution to it any time soon, not with Odrahn being MIA. There would have to be a push to totally restructure how reports of posts were generated on the back end so mods could only see reports for the forums they moderate.

It’s also among the reasons why a mod would be hard to select, even if they didn’t moderate threads they were active in in CA for example, they’d see reports of their posts from threads they were in and who was reporting them, which is not ideal whatsoever. Though the same issues apply for any moderator from other forums who participate in CA/IMHO and have their posts reported.

I haven’t modded since before vanilla but I know the notifications work this way because a now former mod told me as much via PM, that they had seen a post I reported of there’s and proceeded to bicker with me why I shouldn’t have reported it, which was very troublesome but the appropriate action was taken by admins to remove their privileges. With how hard it is to find mods these days it’s unfortunate that happened. But it underscores why it’s so hard to find and retain the right person. You would want someone who was interested enough in current affairs to mod it but dispassionate enough to not get involved in any of the topics. A real unicorn. Of which we have seemingly only about 2 currently.

Could be a good idea for a forum, similar to Prison.

Posters who are arguing back and forth or insulting each other are sent to "purgatory" to sort out their differences.