Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

He's not. But once you're in on Trump, you have to go all in and defend/support everything.

What's you're point, I'm a registered FG'er yet never paid a penny in my life, the local supporters pay it on my behalf.

The McDonalds thing is so weird.

I'm not even talking about the idea of it being staged in part or entirely. I'm talking about how it seemed that Trump was so bothered by the idea of Harris ever working there.

You could imagine him on his private plane after a rally - he's about to reward himself with a Bigmac, fries and coke, but when he picks up the carton thing, he doesn't see happy golden arches. He just sees Kamala's laughing face. Dismayed, he throws his burger across the cabin.

The photo op is really just his way to 'exorcise' her from his favourite food.

Hahaha

I laughed out loud at the image of him getting his stupid Bigmac on the plane. And Harris' face on the packaging.

From memory I think the whole McDonald's thing came about because Harris said she worked at one, but then it was discovered she didn't include it on her resume for a previous job (because you probably wouldn't depending on how long ago it was, how long you worked there for, if you hadn't made it to any type of managerial position or other position of responsibility etc). So the MAGAs were trying to say she was lying about it or something.

So it evolved into this performative bullsh*t where less than 3 weeks before a Presidential candidate, one of those candidates wants to roleplay as a McDonald's employee to show how easy it is (sure that'll go down well with the actual McDonald's employees who work long shifts under huge demands and pressure for low wages).

It was interesting to see the sharp decline of background noise of "I'm not a Trump supporter, BUT!". You could really sense how stunned and dismayed they were. There was a frantic scramble to rewrite the script. They knew they couldn't go with "but she's black! AND a woman!". I fancy I also see a correlation between pro Trump background white noise and the DJT share price. It has gone from around $10 to nearly $30 in the same time the pro Trump arguments on the internet (not just here) have been getting louder, shriller and more desperate
But I'm disappointed with the new script. It seems it took them weeks to come up with "She's a terrible candidate! She once dressed sexy and therefore is a prostitute! And she's a terrible candidate!". It really feels like an essay handed in by a student who spend days playing computer games and hastily scribbled something down in half an hour on the morning they're supposed to hand it in.

I think its just FEAR in general……. MAGA is so worked up that everyone non MAGA is out to get them and their families and their way of life

You are over-thinking it. I agree with your analysis, but you are not allowing for the fact that a mass-hysteria type effect has taken over one side. They are not paying any attention to any news of any description, just listening to opinion shows and on-line chat. This isn't going to change, so most of what the news (insofaras the US does news) reports is either ignored or regarded as lies and conspiracy material. They watch carefully curated bits of Trump and take it at face value because it suits their opinions. Its all very exciting being part of this huge and entertaining 'stick it to them' showman's followers. What else is there to distract you from everyday issues? His followers are entirely the 'poorly educated' and easily led, and the uber-wealthy who want to remain that way. Its a perfect balance.

I still think there are enough 'eyes open' people with intelligence to see past the hype and do the sums to vote for Harris - not because she will be an amazing President, but because she will be a safer pair of hands than the alternative. Almost more important is the number of Democrats that are voted in to hold the Senate and House, hopefully even if Trump does get in if there is enough weight in the government he may be kept in check.

Maybe this is all wishful thinking, he has the Supreme Court, he can pretty much do as he pleases. He won't be doing much beyond playing golf, but his team are more dangerous and will be able to power ahead with whatever Project 25 stuff they wish and he will sign what is put in front of him.

I do think though that at some stage the US needs the chaos and danger of an uncontrolled right wing presidency to eventually allow them to see sense, but it will be a long and dirty battle that will not do the rest of the world any good at all.

Those are fair points.

I agree with you about the EU.

They seem more intent on punishing businesses and protecting certain industries rather than looking for real growth or innovation in the region.

Pa, Mi, Wi all even now. The popular vote is in to about 1%. Apparently demagoguery sells. We should all just accept it and move on.

Harris will have to run the table for her to win this election.

But, Trump needed to do this in 2020, remember the infamous 'Blue Wall'?

Its possible that Harris indeed will sneak all those states, but the odds are not in her favour right now.

I personally think she is a terrible candiate but it will be on the Dems if they lose this.

Trump's pal Miller is the propagandist of his age, he's got the folks looking over the shoulder at their neighbours.

His proposal to exempt ovetime work after 40hrs from tax is pretty progressive I think, depending on what's in the fine detail that could put around $100 or more into peoples pay packets every week. I'd like to see one of our politicans propose similar. I don't get overtime so it doesn't effect me but I can see how it would help a lot in certain industries.

There have been suggestions (Washington Post for example) that the Trump campaign has spent millions of dollars manipulating the odds trying to make it 'look' like he is the clear favourite. He very suddenly shortened in price last week, when there was no obvious change in momentum or boost for him in the polls or elsewhere….the feeling is that this may not be real bets being placed on him by the public, but his own team up to dodgy stuff.

For me, if the “non-Trump” voter exists, and I don’t discount that it may exist, I think the profile will be young female voters, worried about the abortion issue - so yes, they’ll say Trump all the way- then vote Harris to ensure they have abortion as an option.

That’s possibly where I read about “non-Trump” voters at the start of this election- but as we know, young voters have a renowned fear of polling booths 😀