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Limerick improvement projects

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,360 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    Non-Statutory Public Consultation now open on Market Quarter & Cruise's Street Public Realm Upgrades;



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,837 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    It's the start of a plan, but it's not enough IMO. Parts of Denmark St and Robert St should be permanently closed to traffic rather than just on Thur/Fri/Sat nights. They could close the section of Back Lane next to Mother Macs too and enlarge the area outside the pub. If the mayor wants more on street activation, then this would be a much better place than the Crescent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,669 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I thought Back Lane was going to go pedestrian. It really serves no purpose as a road from what I can see.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,837 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Not according the plan on the consultation page. I've already put my submission in stating basically what I posted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    Fantastic news. One thousand million dollars is some investment in a city that only a few years ago many people claimed was in 'terminal decline'. Pity, that meanwhile UL are unable to proceed with the Veterinary College. I presume recent controversies are impacting the university's plans to proceed with various developments, particularly their proposed, and very ambitious, Strategic Development Zone.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,837 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Construction is about to start on the 5 storey apartment block at Speakers Corner. It will be great to see this awful eyesore of an empty site finally brought back into use.

    https://nbco.localgov.ie/node/302431

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    Also work is getting way at Keanes Jewellers to extend into the old H. Samuels unit.

    https://nbco.localgov.ie/node/302432



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,801 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    €1.2m for 70 signs with no oversight, I'm clearly in the wrong job haha! On a serious note though, these teething issues aside, it's good to see something like this being done. Simple idea with the potential to give people unfamiliar with the city a better idea of where they're going

    https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2024/0919/1470962-limerick-bilingual-signs/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,669 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    If you walk from the Treaty stone to Thomond Villa's you will find Thomondgate spelt 4 different ways in Irish 🤣

    I have seen "Páirc Thuamhan" used a lot including by Munster which is wrong and the article pointing out it's wrong is also wrong with "Páirc Thuamhumhan"

    Thomond is "Tuadhmhumhain" as in North Munster.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,837 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Even English roads signs don't have the correct spellings. Near me there's a sign with Reboge rather than Rhebogue and another with Roxborough instead of Roxboro.

    It's a mountain out of a molehill situation really. The vast majority of people will be only be reading the English part.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,669 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Different spellings for Shanabooly going round too.

    Roxborough annoys me for some reason though. Just doesn't look right.



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,026 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    That was the traditional spelling, but it has generally been replaced with Tuamhain over the last few decades.

    https://www.logainm.ie/ga/s?txt=Thomond&str=on

    It needs a "h" at the start after the word "páirc" and loses the "i" at the end due to being in the genitive case, so Munster Rugby are actually using the correct modern spelling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,669 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Ya I get the "modern Irish" thing but that's basically Irish turned into English turned into Irish. No need for it really when the word is there already. Seemingly tons of examples of it across the country though.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,026 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    It's a result of the standardisation of spelling in the 1950s. Not just place names, but thousands of words had spellings updated to remove syllables that aren't pronounced. Nothing at all to do with turning Irish into English - just making sure writers and speakers from Kerry to Donegal would have a better chance of understanding each other. (In theory, at least! It pissed off a LOT of people in the process! 😂 )



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭LeoD


    What's worse is the shape of the signs. When the brand identity for Limerick launched over 4 years ago eventually runs stale as all brand identities do, the shape of the signs will carry this branding until they fall apart or are replaced. How long we'll have that crappy identity is anyone's guess but if we get another 10 years out of it we'll be doing well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭pigtown


    The Arthur's Quay framework has been published and is open for public feedback.

    https://mypoint.limerick.ie/en/consultation/options-report-arthurs-quay-framework-non-statutory-public-consultation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Strettie11


    Does anyone know how the UL campus site in the mockups has acquired 2, yes 2 , 20 storey towers? Will the eye of Sauron appear between them!! Considering UL at the public accounts committee indicated they had no money to develop the site or no plans outside of the current structure. Is there something I have missed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,669 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I would imagine that is just an example of the kind of thing will be there unless I missed something in the text. The council don't actually have any say on the exact buildings just the streetscape.

    Not much difference in plans B and C so they might as well go with C which is a bit more far reaching. I'm disappointed there is no option to move the road all the way over to Patrick St.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭rjoe90


    Patrick street development is under opera square.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,669 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Well yes but that's just because someone decided it was. Its not a law of nature.

    If they go for a fully redeveloped Arthur's Quay they should get rid of the road between the shopping centre and park. You do this by redirecting it to a larger 2-way Patrick St. Nothing stopping that as the new road would be within the mapped area of this project.

    Doesn't matter now anyway because it's not in the options.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 621 ✭✭✭Cetyl Palmitate


    Some derilict properties being CPO'd.

    I presume the block of flats are the ones between the milk market and Molly's? They must be "under construction" for 20 years at this stage!?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,669 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Most recently the addition of wallpaper that looks like bricks.

    Whoever owns that must have some seriously powerful and corrupt friends.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,837 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Yes. ABP refused the CPO.

    I walked past last weekend. They're attaching insulation to the exterior wall and then covering it in this 'cladding'. ABP were satisfied that this showed progress and that the owner was in the process of dealing with the dereliction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,669 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    That "cladding" clearly isn't something you would have on a real operating building. Either ABP didn't go look at it or far more likely it's corruption. Same goes for a number of other dubious sites in the city.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,837 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    The inspector visited the site, but wasn't able to gain access. I don't think there is any corruption, simply a very high bar for CPOs. If the owner is doing any work on the property it's enough to have ABP refuse the CPO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭keane10


    I'd like to know more about the CPO process.

    A derelict house next door to us was listed by Limerick City & County Council as one they were going to acquire via CPO in 2021. Nothing has happened since. There's no record of it on the ABP website and it's still empty. It had new windows and a roof put in about 3/4 years ago but left idle since.

    We heard that the owner may have blocked the CPO or appealed it, which would make sense if he put the new windows and roof in, but it seems the whole thing is stuck in limbo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,331 ✭✭✭source


    Generally if a property is about to be CPOd and the owner does some small works on it it shows that they still hold an interest and the CPO will fail.

    If they'd just replaced the roof that would definitely be enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    The Derelict site register for Limerick is available for inspection in the Council’s offices. There is a summary of the register available online. You can also speak to them with queries regarding specific properties.

    More info here:

    https://www.limerick.ie/council/services/housing/derelict-and-vacant-sites/derelict-sites



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭rjoe90


    These new plans for Arthurs quay look promising and it is great to see something is finally being done there.

    However, I can’t help but feel the plans are somewhat underwhelming. Instead of knocking sarsfield house, why not repurpose it for apartments and do up the exterior and interior? Also removing the road from Arthur’s quay to the park would work better, try to reintegrate this traffic elsewhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭HGVRHKYY


    It's very difficult to repurpose such office buildings for apartments, that building is so old and oddly shaped that it would simply be much better to demolish it and start over. It's a substantial plot of land that could be utilised really well in the very centre of the city as a green space/park to enable a better second space for people to enjoy on the river side - think about the expanded special events that could then be put on there, like Christmas markets and River Fest, if Arthur's quay was improved and had all that extra space along with it and the entire area was pedestrianised. Would be like a town square, something badly needed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,331 ✭✭✭source


    New social housing build planned for Ballycummin Rd.

    https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/planning/1633112/social-housing-scheme-planned-for-limerick-suburb.html



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