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Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,730 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Ignore, post didn’t quote what I wanted it to



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,730 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Jamac was usually very agreeable but occasionally “lashed out”, and acknowledged that this was “completely unacceptable”.

    but also:

    Jamac had also pleaded guilty to a separate assault in March this year, and details of this were heard at a previous court sitting. He had 53 previous convictions, the majority of which were for public order offences. Jamac had been in Ireland for seven years and was not working, Mr Doherty said. He was assisted by an interpreter in court.“Things are getting more and more difficult for him with alcohol consumption”, the solicitor said. Alcohol was behind the majority of his offending. He was an alcoholic and “needs help for it”.

    Make it make sense!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,317 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    The funny thing about all these far lefts is they don't realize they are the greatest recruiters for the far right.

    When you lie and suppress information, people will look for it and the far right will have their spin on it.

    It's happening all over Europe and we will see it in a few years.

    The far right must be laughing their bollox off at the type who do nothing but talk about them to make them relevant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    A deluge of violence, must notably sexual violence, against the native society has been a consequence of mass immigration for every other European country that has been subjected to it in recent decades.

    Did we think it would be different for us?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,251 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I'm sure the "far right" in especially Sweden and Germany are just making up all the assaults, making victims lie and blame migrants, damn those "far right" , should we all just make fun of assaults and victims



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭2Greyfoxes


    'Too' not 'To'. You should have said 'Yet his supporters are eirher too thick to realise, or too thick to care.' I also corrected your grammar.

    Anyway carry on calling people thick, see where that gets you.

    Clever word play may win debates, but it doesn't make it true.

    Understanding and explaining things, is not the same as justifying them, if in doubt… please re-read this statement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Will0483


    Deporting illegal immigrants is actually a centrist policy and is better known as enforcing the law. As the vast, vast majority of asylum seekers are economic migrants, we should be seeing mass deportations right now.

    Far left ideas such as those you parrot here are far more damaging than anything the far right have proposed in Ireland.

    You and those like you are the problem not the solution to the current farce. Luckily, there are not many who agree with you. I voted FG by the way so wouldn't consider myself far right at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Will0483


    If anything they are ignored. Look at the situation in France, Germany, Belgium and Sweden. The worst thing is the fact that 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants are committing even more crime than their parents compared to the national average.

    There has been no integration despite billions spent and no prospect of deporting criminals as they have acquired citizenship.

    Ireland will no do any better than those countries as we have a weak judiciary and typically have a fairly inept public service in a European context.

    All of the aforementioned countries would have been much better off economically and socially if they had controlled immigration from 3rd world countries and would now regret the decision.

    You're not making fun of anybody. I get a good laugh out of your "arguments" anyway. A lot of the left have abandoned critical thinking and evidence based policy making. In a way, you are like the Taliban in your ideology and as untroubled by doubt in your ludicrous position.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭lmao10


    Do you not think it's funny how far right types speak for 0.42% of the populace according to the last elections but act like you are speaking for 100% of us! I noticed you didn't mention the dreaded 0.42% number in your post. lol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭gossamerfabric


    receiving "state supports" means the immigrants have been successful. They are in the labyrinthine international protection system now and won't be removed.

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/gardai-launch-smuggling-investigation-in-rosslare-after-two-men-founding-hiding-in-a-van-1682289.html



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭Will0483


    People don't just vote based on one issue. There are also very few far right voters in Ireland. The average Irish person just wants our laws to be upheld and not to be writing a blank cheque for every chancer on Earth to live here.

    It's not much to ask and you don't need to be a member of the KKK to support that policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭lmao10


    Well I'll agree solely on the point that there are very few far right voters in the country as we saw from that 0.42% result. The hopes of many on here were dashed as they realised the paltry number of votes they got. A black pill I think it's called. So we have finally come to a point of agreement!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭tom23


    They are irish. Nobody cares about them. NGO’s won’t slap you on the back and say yes minister you have our full support in the upcoming election.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Augme


    Lol. In 2019 only 34% of conversative Republicans believe in evolution. 41% of Americans think its are definite or probable that humans and dinasours lived on the planet at the same time. Only 26% of Americans can name all three branches of their own Goverment and 33% couldn't even name a single branch. 16% of Americans who believe the earth is flat. That's 53 millions Americans who who believe the earth is flat. So yes, I firmly believe 10s of millions of Americans are fundamentally thick.

    Now, look, while you might think these Americans are mensa candidates that's fair enough, we will just have to agree to disagree on that.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Augme




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    The Apple money will be diverted to pay for this fiasco . 422 euro for a modular home that will last at best 60 years a joke .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭Repro212


    That's always been an irritation for me, the left are first to preach that it's wrong to stereotype but okay for them to write off millions of Americans as thick while anyone that dare disagree with their ideas is pigeonholed into the far right, fascist box.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,710 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    aAyxEqL_460s.jpg

    The far side



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭Repro212


    Still needing an interpreter after seven years = not bothering his arse to integrate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,299 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Thank fook for the dumb Yanks and their multinational companies setting up shop here.

    Paddys politicians blew it in the Celtic tiger n they got us out of jail. Our politicians are busy blowing it again making us uncompetitive for the multinationals and hugely attractive to refugees. Wonder how that'll turn out!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Sorry, 16% of Americans DON'T believe the earth is flat?

    Your posts are quite difficult to follow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭lmao10


    As I said before, its common sense at this point that the more thanked a post is on here the less weight you should put on it's opinions, given the majority of the forum is the 0.42% which isn't really representative of the general populace I'm afraid. I think it's fair to say that most readers would skip past highly thanked posts at this point. I'm not counting the 0.42% in that equation of course as they'd be the ones thanking and hoping their posts get thanked in return. It's no surprise that you'd put great emphasis on it. I also didn't see any evidence that the majority of posters are left wing in this thread but you continue to make the assertion without evidence. Surely it can't take long to tally up the post counts since you made the claim. You don't seem to have a problem asking others for evidence. But no need to get hung up on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Augme




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Jizique


    Poland now deciding to stop taking immigrants, and this is Donald Tusk's govt, not the "evil far right" one.

    Ireland is open for all and will take it up the jaxie

    https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article253979988/Regierungschef-Tusk-Polen-plant-voruebergehende-Aussetzung-des-Asylrechts.html



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You sound very confused. Please come back when you can manage a little coherence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    I would not vote for any candidate that espouses violence or far right views but believe the current situation is unsustainable. We just can’t accommodate 20000 asylum seekers a year unless we engage in a huge building program and that doesn’t even take into account the amount of housing needed for native Irish.

    Does that make me far right? You don’t address any issues, just keep repeating far right and 0.42 . You even admitted you enjoy winding up all posters you have decided are far right. I have no idea how you are not banned as you contribute nothing constructive



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭thereiver


    We have a hoising crisis. We have a crisis in prisons prison overcrowding To be sent to prison now you have to commit a serious crime

    Dublin city council is over budget by 100 million in it's spending on hostels accomodation

    I listen to newstalk they said there used to be 2000 asylum seekers coming here every year Now it's 20k asylum seekers per year most of them end up in Dublin

    Meanwhile theres 1000s of empty houses in Ireland

    Anerica has a problem with declining birth rates more women are opting to not have children

    They need more young people many states to work in hotels retail and other sectors

    So they need immigration is a positive solution to some degree

    Japan has a crisis it does not have enough people to provide workers to keep it's economy going at a sustainable manner

    A large sector of it's population is over 60 they have to be paid pensions and they need

    medical care they will probably have to change the law to allow more immigration in order to get young workers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭InAtFullBack


    Hows the 'Build back better' programme going in the USA? Three and a half years in, what has improved?

    Inflation out of control is the reality for many Americans. "It's the economy, stupid" is what drives American voters. Inflation and Immigration are two big influences on the US economy right now - but it seems in some lefty circles, you're 'fundamentally thick' if you realise that.

    The lines between economic migration, asylum seekers and refugees is becoming increasingly blurred with many of the former going down the route of the latter to get easy access to welfare benefits and access to employment thanks to lax policies on most borders of western nations.

    Amazing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    0.42%, lol, lol, 0.42%, rofl, lol, 0.42%, far-right, lol, lol, 0.42% far-right, lol

    Irish Times

    IT poll 2.jpg

    As an aside, look at the state of the GP voters - One would seriously have to question their intelligence

    And another one from many all saying the same thing

    idm poll.jpg

    0.42% lol, lol, far-right



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭Jizique


    In fairness, inflation is back down to 2%, and gas/petrol prices are are multi year lows. Employment gains are strong, and manufacturing construction is booming due to reshoring - very different to Europe which is monumentally fcuked, largely by regulation and the '"green agenda"



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