Israel are going to start WWIII

free gaza , from hamas

Will that take another 20,000 children directly murdered or 40,000?

Or should they just kill everyone in Gaza and be done with it?

Realistically that is the only way to free Gaza from Hamas or whatever other group will surely rise out of this genocide.

What I don't get is if Hamas are actually using Palestinians as human shields to protect themselves it's ultimately futile as the IDF have shown time and again there quite willing to kill scores of civilians to take out a few Hamas members. Also whatever about single male civilians , why would mothers be willing to risk their children dying to shield Hamas fighters. Is the excuse that Hamas forces them to stay. If that is the case how is it that so many left Northern Gaza when this began without Hamas killing hundreds of them in an attempt to stop them? If Hamas are actually using Human shields it's of course wrong and despicable, but I notice people condemning Hamas for using Human Shields have nothing to say about the IDF caught on video using Palestinians as human shields as they enter houses and tunnels.

The genocide and war crimes continue as Israel flouts ICJ directives to provide humanitarian aid to Gaza.

Perhaps the end game is what you suggest - just kill them all either by bombing, shooting or starvation.

BBC:

As the Israeli military continues to intensify its operation in northern Gaza, the United Nation’s World Food Programme (WFP) says the offensive is having a disastrous impact on food security for thousands of Palestinian families. 

It says the main crossings into the north have been closed by Israel and no food aid has entered since 1 October.

"We are committed to delivering life-saving food every day despite the mounting challenges,” said Antoine Renard, WFP Country Director for Palestine. 

“But without safe and sustained access, it is virtually impossible to reach the people in need.”

They are literally using the same nonsense and announced it for Lebanon this morning.

Do not drive ambulances as they will be blown up.

Given that virtually all schools and hospitals in Gaza have been hit and ambulances are seen as a legitimate target, it would be the last place Hama or any other bogey man would hide.

They have purposely destroyed a regions health care system and are now starving the populous.

The end game is clear, they want Egypt to open their borders, whatever doesn't flee will be executed.

It is genocide 101.

The regime knows full well it is attacking civilian areas and not 'Hamas strongholds' (ditto with Lebanon and supposed Hezbollah targets) - you would have to conclude that innocent civilians are the actual target at this point.

 you would have to conclude that innocent civilians are the actual target at this point.

It was never in doubt.

Actively destroying a regions health care system is an all out attack on who lives there, with the sole purpose of inflicting as much death and hard ship as possible. It's a far more effective way of using bombs to kill. Just takes a bit longer.

It didn't happen 12 months ago, the occupation and blockaid has been going on for years, they are just speeding up their end goals now.

Netanyahu could just be trying to survive politically and avoid prison.

What’s more funny than infuriating is someone who presents himself as an authority on a subject, but hasn’t himself taken the time to scrutinise the detail.

So, read through this and you’ll learn something.

It started out as JudenHass, just good old ol-fashioned Jew Hatred.

The evolution to anti-Semitism occurred as an attempt to put Jew Hatred on a scientific basis, that there was a set of physical characteristics that proved the Jewish inferiority to the Aryan peoples.

A similar, more well known, form of pseudoscience was Phrenology, the notion that you could prove the superiority of the Aryan’s by measuring their head size in relation to the smaller Jew brain.

All absolute bollocks, but it was quite the thing for a while in the halls of academia.

The next major evolution occurred with the advent of the internet and social media.

Certain people who sought to monetize that large group of people who held anti-Semitic beliefs realised that they could continue to broadcast as long as they switched the word ‘Jew’ up with ‘Zionist’, and avoid media censorship, because, after all, one is indeed Jew hatred, but the other is an objection to a political belief, for example.

"Longtime and vociferous Jew-haters may use the language of anti-Zionism for tactical purposes while expressing their antisemitic beliefs. For example, they may swap out the word “Jew” and replace it with “Zionist” in order to avoid censorship by social media companies whose terms prohibit antisemitism."

"Accusing “Zionists,” or anyone who supports the existence of the State of Israel, of behavior commonly associated with age-old tropes about Jews (such as greed, bloodthirstiness and power) is antisemitic. Additionally, this rhetoric villainizes the vast majority of Jews around the world who identify with Zionism or feel a connection or kinship with Israel (regardless of their individual views on Israeli policies)." 

"A strong overlap between right-wing, Islamistand left-wing extremism undoubtedly lies in the anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. In this regard, anti-Zionism may be used as a stand-in term for “Jews” in conspiracy theories, thus making it more difficult to unravel antiSemitic malicious narratives on the alleged Jewish global power."

You are right that not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews, but you are, either deliberatley or unknowingly, addressing the wrong Venn Diagram. The venn diagram you should be addressing is those who are anti-Zionist and also anti-semitic/racist. The overlap is huge.

A person may make a reasonable arguement against Zionism, however, when that individual uses the cry of Zionist and regurgitates anti-semitic tropes at the same time, they are 100% antisemitic. It's cut and dried.

For decades the only group of people who would shout 'F**K Israel' or 'F**k the Zionists' were hardcore neo-nazi KKK Aryan supremacists.

Your views would get you a welcoming seat at the table. You should pause to consider who you're breaking bread with.

A good link to a EU document on Conspiracy theories and anti-semitism.

Have a read. You'll recognise yourself in the literature.

https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2021-04/ran_conspiracy_theories_and_right-wing_2021_en.pdf

It supports their two allies in the region Israel and Saudi Arabia. The morality of international politics is very murky.

You make it too easy Mike. You get excited about an allegation of a girl being kept against her will in Gaza and you want to extrapolate that to justifying killing tens of thousands of kids there as well as thousands of civilians in Lebanon.

When asked if you'll do the same thing for a rabbi who was legally found to have enslaved and sexually assaulted dozens of girls , you run away and try to throw in an ad hominem.

All I say is keep the ad hominems coming. It gives me more and more opportunities to highlight your hypocrisy.

Sure when the bodies of the Ukrainians were found with bullets and torture marks in Bucha, didn't all the "wokerati" make the newspapers caveat their reports with warnings that the reporters didn't see that people being shot or tortured

Oh, actually, no. Maybe that mentalness only happens for the "antisemitism confetti" (to use your phrase)

I don't think it matters to the USA. They invade countries for bogus reasonss, support totalitarian regimes, and still find time to lecture the rest of world and disparage the UN. Israel and Saudis are stable allies in the region so they will aid both in killing civilians in neighbouring countries. Also Iran is their enemy so weakening them and their allies is good for the US.

The UN says there is a serious risk of starvation in gaza as the IDF is stopping food supplys being imported into gaza

I cannot think of any logical reason for the idf to fire on UN forces but the IDF have shot reporters and young women and children and peaceful protestors

The IDF invaded the Lebanon years ago and the left as the rate of IDF casualties was too high

Of course they have hi tech drones and bombs that they did not have in the 80s

Its more dangerous to fight in the Lebanon as the terrain is more mountainous

Most upper class rich people have left the Lebanon to places that are safe leaving servants behind

The West needs to arm the Lebanese army with missiles etc. comparable to the way that they have supplied Ukraine.

For every zionist missile that hits Beirut, allow the Lebanese army to fire back one at Tel Aviv. As it stands, there are no disincentives or repercussions for the zionists to stop their murdering.

They love the oul' biblical "eye for an eye" rhetoric when it suits them. Allow them to be on the receiving end of the same policy and see if it changes their minds on the legality of bombing civilians.