Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

I see Marjorie Taylor Greene is telling people to drink raw milk.

We are two degrees away from asking people to drink the Koolaid folks!

US inflation numbers are out. Good news.

That's two good sets of numbers - last weeks jobs report and this. Q3 earning season kicking off too which will tell us about the health of America's corporates.

Generally though, these are all good numbers for Harris.

Sure, the price of oil is way outside Biden's control. But that would not deter the MAGA crowd. No matter what the issue, just blame the party in power, never mind the evidence, or the context or anything else (even the weather).

That's the MAGA way: politics for low-information fools.

I agree with most of that but when i say they arent capturing the voters correctly i dont mean the margin of error in polls for a single state, it could move all the states, this graphic makes it a bit clearer

In 2020 biden was 8.4 points up on 4th november, the actual result was 4.5 points, states that were safe democrat went to lean and lean went to tilt, and he fliped 2. It was a clear trend that happened before and also for obama.

Because of the lead biden had it didnt affect the result, Harris only has 3 points, a lot of clever people will have been looking at the figures and trying to correct for it the last 4 years, thiings like covid migration to red states, hispanics in texas / florida turning to the right etc, but f*** me we could end up with the imbecile again

Good time to remember that under Trump, the cost of US crude underwent inversion, and was being bought for negative dollars at one point. That's how little of a handle he had on it. He also went to the Saudi's begging them for more oil.

If the criticism is justified then Trump has a lot of criticism to be blamed for and Biden has a lot of credit to be given for keeping it so relatively stable esp. after major global upset following the Russian 3 day special operation. I'm not sure Trump has proven to be someone you want asleep at the wheel of the energy sector.

Democracy loses if Trump wins. He has told us clearly several times.

So if the Democratic candidate has to water down their values in order to win the election I think the vast majority of "progressives" will understand and accept it.

Yep, hopefully there will be a time to critique Harris and her policies when she has her own presidential thread.

For now, as this thread is specifically about her vs Trump, it feels like the wrong place to specifically criticise her policies or backtracking without taking into account her opponent. And there is no subject or policy that you could reasonably argue that Trump would be better on.

That's not going to kill you in fairness, I drank it until I left home at 17/18. My Gran lived until 96 and she drank it every day.

In fairness, monkey thinks they can too. 😂

I find it bizarre that Trump has any fans at all. So the fact that he does makes you think is there anything they wouldn't believe or say or have an issue with

Oh FFS. So we’ve gone from a chunk of MAGA being anti-vax to some of them starting to follow the herd and ignore the work of old Louis Pasteur. I guess killing off potential bacteria in the milk is the work of the devil or some such nonsense.

If you want to have a gaggle of MAGA voters praying to the Porcelain Gods on voting day instead of getting out there…I’m not going to stop them…but hopefully they’ll learn their lesson before they manage to poison their kids.

Raw Milk can be ok if you trust the source and can get it directly from a dairy farm. But the danger is still there, and that’s why the mass produced milk we get in the shops is always pasteurised.

Putting female sanitary products in male toilets is not and never will be normal.
Vance showed him up for the blithering idiot that he is. It’s no wonder Harris picked tampon Tim as it speaks to her woeful decision making and inclination towards safe space group think. She needed her follow looney tune comfort blankie instead of someone competent who’d have helped her ticket instead of making it even worse

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It’s the most bizarre thing to be angry about - a sanitary product in a bathroom. I genuinely can’t get my head around the idea that some people devote significant time of their day being outraged by it.

It might have something to do with that gender-ID stuff that some Democrats are obsessed with.