Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

Harris should commit to making Liz Cheney her Secretary of State.

Not all of them are telling lies, the rest are just useful idiots, laundering talking points gleaned from dubious sources, hence the reason why they constantly dodge a request for citation

You're making the mistake of assuming that there is a thought process behind the trotting out of "tampon Tim". It's just what the MAGA social media is pushing, as is almost every other argument being made by the rape-apologists.

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The majority of polls are trending in Trump's direction.

Harris's behaviour of denying and not answering questions is not going to be an effective strategy. Her campaign slogan is 'A new way forward', yet she comes out and says there is nothing she would change from the last four years. Is that really going to motivate people to vote for her who are unhappy with the current direction of the country?

Her honeymoon period is well and truly over.

In fairness there's a huge discussion which could be had regarding how hard it is to vote in many areas in America and often in those areas with larger ethnic populations. Literally having to stand in line for hours to vote. It's why in 2020 where there was more mail-in voting, largest voting turnout in history. Hell Trump talks about getting more votes than any sitting President, and Biden still got about 8m more votes than him.

But definitely, getting people to actually go to the effort to vote is a huge thing, and that's where Harris replacing Biden has definitely caused the biggest shift, because even people who might have still preferred Biden over Trump may not have been enthused enough to go to the effort of voting for him. I think more people would be more willing to get out and vote for Harris.

Nor was it a Cat 5, the likes of which we've never seen (I'm paraphrasing Trump here)

Sounds like both men listened to the people in the know and commented on it. We'll say they were both, thankfully, wrong

The only reason I'd like her to even consider running is to witness the ridiculous, impotent rage from Trump and his acolytes if she did.

Yes, that Lara Loomer is changing his nappy and tucking him in down at Merde de Lardo, now she is top batshit class.

The polls need to stay as narrow as possible in order to avoid apathy.

People need to be determined to get out and vote particularly when so many obstacles are purposely put in their place.

I imagine the tactic of voter suppression will be widely expanded upon if Trumps get in.

But I continue to object strongly to any suggestion that reasonable criticisms of Harris are in bad faith. To pick just a few examples… she has disastrously (for the planet) backtracked on several urgent environmental issues; her approach to the Middle East crisis is an amoral disaster; she has - as far as I've seen - failed to stand up properly for Lina Khan (maybe the most promising figure in the Biden administration) amid mounting attacks from billionaire donors - though we'll see how that plays out if she wins; she has abandoned her past support of Medicare for All; and in general her platform lacks real progressive or forward-thinking policies beyond fairly typical centrist Dem stuff. The neocon likes of Liz Cheney happily backing her shows there's a fundamental conservatism at the heart of the current Dem platform.

There has been precious little in the way of genuine criticism of Kamala Harris on this thread or, indeed, many other places too. Most of the criticism that's bandied about comes not from honest positions, but from people who have demonstrated an extreme bias and utterly dishonest and insincere stances in order to prop up their golden idol.

Genuine criticism of Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party is welcome and there's quite a bit to be critical of, as in some of the items you've posted above. However, a lot of that criticism can be levelled at the Republican Party as well. And, frankly, while her and the Democrat's stance on the Middle East is awful, that is because it's an American stance and not a party one and no matter who is in power in the US, that stance will remain whether it is criticised or not.

The problem is that both parties are right leaning, one more than the other, so the points you have raised won't be getting any salve from either entity.

But…and this is very important…in a two horse race where the lesser of two evils is the least damaging choice, it's important not to let the trees get in the way of seeing the wood.

I'll ignore that second part of your post because it's just all over the place.

No high quality polls has Harris way ahead. That's a falsehood.

You will see some statistical noise from poll to poll, what's important is the trends. Go to 538 who weight polling agencies by grade, and look at the overall trend. Most battleground states are trending in Trumps direction.

Kamala is seeking the vote for "change" in this election and she was asked that exact 64000 dollar question yesterday. This answer speaks a thousand words

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Show me where trump is gaining, or has momentum, on the national polls? The battleground states are close but are majority falling to Harris right now.

This was your statement:

Harris's behaviour of denying and not answering questions is not going to be an effective strategy.

During a phase where Harris is everywhere answering questions and trump is running away and hiding behind "truths". You cannot consider your point as credible in any way.

Though I do understand why you want to run away and hide from it in the same way that trump does. These type of traits are not desirable in a person and certainly not in a presidential candidate.

I await your coherent answer.

Convicted Felon Trump might've repeatedly violated the Logan act in his convos with Putin. CFTrump bragged about it during the debate.

I wonder about his meeting with Orban at Merde-a-Lago, too.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-trump-logan-act-harris-debate-vladmiri-putin-1951875