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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    That article doesn't seem very accurate to me…the little inshore cutters bought on the cheap from NZ are only for operation in the Irish Sea. No role they are capable of doing year round on protecting cables off the west coast…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,244 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Get ready for the most expensive transport helicopter known to man. If the UK go with the contract Leonardo will be laughing all the way to the bank

    https://www.flightglobal.com/helicopters/airbus-helicopters-and-sikorsky-walk-away-from-uk-nmh-contest-at-11th-hour/159793.article



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,367 ✭✭✭sparky42


    at this stage surely they will cancel the program? Otherwise as you say Leonardo will do themselves an injury laughing so much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Have Leonardo already put in a bid ?

    Leonardo were always going to get that contract , because of their factory in Taunton ?

    Britain's plan for a single type of medium helicopter , and the economies of scale of a single large order seems to be falling apart ,

    Military inflation ,( well everything inflation) and delays are eroding how many helicopters they can get for their billions , and they've already started singing seperate contracts for helicopters ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,244 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Leonardo have put a bid in but it is not straight forward as figures have to be agreed. If the UK dont pull the plug there could be a good deal to be had by the Irish state as us going in with the UK and ordering several units could bring down the overall price and save the programme. But weather we want to be getting in bed with them is a different story.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,429 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    You're getting about 30 steps ahead here.

    First, we have procurement obligations the UK doesn't have. Second, we are in an entirely different market and economic place to them. Third, has anyone said we are in the market for the 149?

    A cursory Top Trumps glance at the offerings shows the H175M to be the better machine, in my opinion.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    I am Dohville. I remember Michael Heseltine standing up to government and party to keep the factory and jobs going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,429 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    It had little to do with jobs especially, as there type chosen was to be built in the UK in any case.

    The affair had far more to do with factions of the Tory party, especially within the Tory cabinet, led by Thatcher on one side, and Heseltine on the other, trying to use the helicopter industry as a pawn to topple one another.

    It very nearly took out Thatcher, but ultimately Leon Brittan was sacrificed and Heseltine ended up resigning in grandstanding fashion.

    In the end, Sikorsky and Fiat acquired stakes in Westland and it ultimately ended up in Leonardo, via Finmeccanica. It still produces Lynx, Wildcat and Merlin helicopters at Yeovil to this day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭mupper2


    Army Ranger Wing soldiers win international special forces sniping competition

    The Army Ranger Wing team won the competition held in eastern Europe beating 26 other elite units

    18:00, 2 SEP 2024

    The Irish ARW operators defeated elite special forces soldiers from 26 other countries.

    The Irish ARW operators defeated elite special forces soldiers from 26 other countries. (Image: Defence Forces/Óglaigh na hÉireann)

    These soldiers from Ireland's elite military unit have beaten off stiff competition from other special forces teams to win an international sniping contest.

    The Irish Mirror has learned that a team from the Army Ranger Wing came first in the competition held in eastern Europe – beating 26 other elite units along the way.

    The Special Operations Tactical Sniper Competition, held in Latvia last month, is reserved for so-called tier one units – each country’s most elite and secretive unit.

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    The Defence Forces declined to say what other units faced off against the ARW in the five day competition, but confirmed they were from the United States, Canada and Europe.

    The competition took place in Latvia

    The competition took place in Latvia (Image: Defence Forces/Óglaigh na hÉireann)

    But tier one units from those areas include the US Navy Seals and Delta Force, the Joint Task Force in Canada, Britain’s SAS, the 1st Marine Infantry Parachute Regiment of France and the Divers and Raiders Grouping of the Italian Navy. In the competition, The ARW team were involved in complex, real world scenarios that tested their skills and teamwork of each team – during the day and at night.

    Competition was stiff, but the Irish ARW came first.

    Competition was stiff, but the Irish ARW came first. (Image: Defence Forces/Óglaigh na hÉireann)

    It’s the first time the ARW has won the demanding exemption and Defence Forces bosses were delighted b the result. A spokesman said: “The ARW team's outstanding performance not only highlights their exceptional training and dedication but also establishes a benchmark for excellence in international military standards.

    “This victory is a testament to the rigorous training and commitment of the ARW, and afforded them the opportunity to demonstrate their capabilities alongside some of the best special operations forces in the world.

    The ARW operators were tested in complex, real life scenarios.

    The ARW operators were tested in complex, real life scenarios. (Image: Defence Forces/Óglaigh na hÉireann)

    “The success of the ARW team at this competition underscores the importance of continuous development and adaptation in military training, ensuring that personnel are well-prepared to meet the evolving challenges in the current security landscape.”

    The spokesman also said the result was a significant milestone for the ARW. He said: “This achievement not only enhances the reputation of the Army Ranger Wing but also contributes to strengthening international military partnerships.

    “As the ARW continues to engage in competitive events and collaborative training, this victory serves as a significant milestone in their ongoing mission to uphold the highest standards of operational excellence.”

    The ARW is the Defence Forces' most elite unit - and its men are on call 24 hours a day. The unit, based in Co Kildare, is on standby every single day of the year to respond to any crisis that may arise anywhere in the state as aid to gardai. That could mean hostage rescue, undercover surveillance of dissident republican terrorists - or even protecting VIPs, like the Queen when she visited Ireland in 2011.

    But the unit is also active abroad in more traditional military roles and has seen service in Somalia, Liberia, Chad and East Timor and Mali. And in 2021 it sent operators to Afghanistan to rescue more than 200 Irish citizens from the chaos of Kabul Airport.

    The ARW risked their lives in 2021 to rescue Irish citizens from Kabul

    The ARW risked their lives in 2021 to rescue Irish citizens from Kabul

    Its highly trained soldiers are experts in guerrilla warfare, marksmanship, hostage rescue, parachuting and long range patrolling.
    They have access to a wide range of weapons, including the Heckler and Koch HK416 assault rifle, the Minimi machine gun - and even the Javelin anti armour missile.

    Around 40 soldiers try to pass ARW selection every year, but less than a dozen pass the gruelling process that sees them allowed into the unit - and wear the coveted green beret that marks them out as a Fianoglach, or Ranger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,367 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Interesting nugget in the article on the 4 helicopter pilots in the Sunday Times, that the primary radar buy is due to enter “acquisition stage” next month, has that been confirmed elsewhere?

    https://www.thetimes.com/article/a037df72-af35-44fe-973f-fe123113ef7f?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,244 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    I understand there is some amount of fighting within in the defence forces to who will operate the system weather its the Army or Air corps. There was even a suggestiin that the Fisheries control center in cork ckukd be upgraded to do it.

    It will be major project for the defence forces and it will also be interesting if the information the system gathers will be shared back to our EU friends in real time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,367 ✭✭✭sparky42


    yeah, given the scale of the single investment a gunfight over who gets it should be expected, but the timeframe I suppose is more important…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,429 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    That description has no meaning in EU procurement law.

    Pre-Tender, Tender, Post-Tender, Evaluation, Pre-award, Award, (Appeal), Contract. Those are the stages.

    Unlike land planning considerations, there is no exemption from EU procurement for defence, although there is a protocol to protect national security considerations which obviates some of the sensitive stuff, which would otherwise be public information and subject to FoI etc.

    The protocol, Directive EU/2009/81/EC, is operated in Irish statute as the European Union (Award of Contracts Related to Defence and Security) Regulations, 2012.

    To me 'acquisition' means getting hands on something, ie contract being executed, which is certainly not imminent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,244 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    I see on the business post the defence forces are tendering for hotel rooms in dublin due to lack of on base accomdation.

    If said it before the below is ideal for defence forces members espcially ones under 30. It would be a great recruitment offering decent accomadion as part of the package.

    https://rathmineshouse.com/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    Tis very expensive….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,429 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    This is the wrong attitude. Yes, the intention is to be temporary, but really not enough force is being put behind a massive on-base accommodation project, for single servicemen and families also. On all barracks and bases nationwide.

    It could kill many birds with one stone.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭Grassy Knoll


    Throw a ball of money at Haulbowline, there are a bunch of derelict buildings there that should be refurbished. Currently it seems the work there is being done piecemeal,ditto the Curragh where there is room for greenfield work



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,367 ✭✭✭sparky42


    So it’s behind the Times paywall, but they are reporting we have a sitting TD that is an active Russian asset, having been recruited before the war by the embassy intelligence staff… He’s being watched by both Garda and military intelligence the article says.

    They aren’t naming names for fear of legal actions, anyone want to play a guessing game?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,244 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Connections to paramilitarys should narrow the field to who it is i taught turns out he was bluffing. The below taken from the London Times:

    When a meeting held outside Dublin was monitored, their suspicions were confirmed: Cobalt offered to do whatever he could to assist the spy, despite never having engaged with paramilitaries in his career

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,367 ✭✭✭sparky42


    so something from the Mirror regarding the potential purchase of a new Air Defence system. I know we have used the RBS 70, but why constrain ourselves to a system that has only one other user?

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/defence-forces-multi-million-missile-33831300?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭mupper2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,367 ✭✭✭sparky42


    I get that, just not sure why it’s one of the options? I mean it has one other user with very limited development and an open question on how long Sweden will use it for, unless they are looking at their own replacement and we are thinking second hand?

    On foot of your comment about the rumour of a French armour buy, why not consider throwing that in as well, the French would be more than happy for more orders and likely give us a good package deal…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭mupper2


    The French offer does seem to include everything bar the kitchen sink at the Élysée palace, vehicles, radars, sonars etc…so possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,367 ✭✭✭sparky42


    there are plenty worse to get in with, and when you look at some of the Arms deals that the French have with other European nations we could come out well equipped from a deal if there was the will to sign off on a deal.

    Though maybe an Irish Navy FDI or two might be pushing it…/jk



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,429 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    As I understand it, they are saying parliamentarian, not TD, so it could be either House.

    I have a couple of suspects, but I won't get into libelling people on here, lets see how it plays out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,429 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Meanwhile, our good friends in the RNZN have had a disaster befall them, with the loss as a consequence of grounding, of support ship HMNZS Manawanui. It was conducting a survey of a reef off Samoa at the time.

    All 75 crew are thankfully accounted for, but the ship was consumed by fire and sank, presumably a total loss.

    No doubt the investigation will be painful for a few.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭mupper2


    Seems the article got a it of crossed wires going on, the primary radar and the MR-SAM project are 2 separate programs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,429 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    If it hadn't got its wires crossed, it probably would have been first Irish print article not to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,429 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    However, speaking of Commonwealth mishaps, Saturday just gone was the 20th anniversary of the HMCS Chicoutimi incident, off the coast of Mayo.

    If anyone doesn't know the story it makes interesting reading.

    Apart from the damage to the newly pennanted RCN boat, the weather conditions caused serious hurt to the bow of LÉ Róisín, as well as to HM Ships Montrose and Northumberland, whose speedy characteristics were not suited to the mountainous sea.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,244 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    The Articles floating around say the air defence system will be using the new lamd based radar system. These misiles are used for local point defence so will it not also need a mobile radar system?



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