Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

Oh every vote counts I grant you that - this is how things stood in late August

The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), the nation’s largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy organization, today released additional results from its August 25-27 presidential election survey of 1,155 American Muslim voters showing Muslim voter preferences varying somewhat based on sex, age, race, party affiliation and location, with Muslim voters favoring Dr. Jill Stein in the swing states of Arizona, Michigan, and Wisconsin while Vice President Kamala Harris leads among Muslim voters in Georgia and Pennsylvania and Donald Trump leads in Nevada. 

Jill Stein was leading Harris in September in several swing states

https://www.wgbh.org/news/politics/2024-09-09/stein-leads-harris-among-muslim-voters-in-several-swing-states-new-analysis-finds

https://www.cair.com/press_releases/cair-swing-state-data-shows-muslim-voters-hold-diverse-preferences-still-up-for-grabs-in-2024/

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Trump is documented as refusing to release disaster aid to areas he thought only had Democratic voters in them.

You would think that sort of thing would be concerning to 'centrists' and definitive proof as to which side is trying to govern responsibly and which side is playing politics with people's lives (which would be evil).

But nope, not a mention of that… instead we get conspiracy theory dog whistling.

Far right is a growing trend too here in Europe as we’ve seen in the Austria elections

. I’m not sure I blame Jill Stein for saying what she’s said - whilst I was somewhat supportive of Israel’s right to retaliate for the October atrocities - they lost my support after a few weeks- I felt Biden should have been more of the peace maker but I don’t think history will be at all kind to him - Harris needs to move well away from his positions on the Middle East and move towards a peaceful resolution - difficult yes - but current approach is disgusting at this stage and she’s in power along with Biden .

In terms of finding other candidates there was a great article about a year back highlighting just how difficult and how much money was required in order to get a new presidential candidate up and running - it’s 100s of millions just to get them going on the campaign trail with no guarantees even then - but yeah you’re right- a very poor reflection on America with these two candidates - “lesser of two evils” or “choose the non-rapist” is just a pathetic reflection of how bad these election candidates are

It's scary that people believe musk has a great technical mind yet hasn't invented anything are the same people who think trump is a successful business yet hasn't had a successful business

Maybe, just maybe, the ability to help doesn't depend on your background, but on what you actually do. Shocking, I know.

it’s like if both sides were represented by two ice cold glasses of beverage, one being blue Mountain Dew and the other one being Windex. “Theyre the same” as long as you don’t drink them, then one is poison.

This is Musk versus the average person:

Elon Musk has won dismissal of a lawsuit claiming he refused to pay at least $500m of severance to thousands of Twitter employees he fired in mass layoffs after buying the social media company now known as X.

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2024/7/10/elon-musk-beats-500m-severance-lawsuit-by-fired-twitter-workers

In Ireland the laws were more weighted in employee favour:

Elon Musk’s X has been ordered to pay compensation to a former staff member of its Irish unit in an unfair dismissal case. The social network platform formerly known as Twitter was ordered to pay out over €550,000 ($602,640) to the former employee.

https://fortune.com/europe/2024/08/14/x-ordered-to-pay-550000-to-irish-employee-fired-for-not-replying-to-elon-musk-yes-or-resign-extremely-hardcore-ultimatum/

It's what right-wing social media is pushing. I was speaking with a friend who consumes a lot of that sort of stuff and that was all he could say "she's useless, she's an idiot". When asked for examples the only ones he could produce were things like the "unburdened by what has gone before" quote which he seemed to think showed her in a bad light. He did have the decency to be a bit embarrassed when I explained it, showing it was a perfectly normal phrase.

I personally don’t see her as a great president - it’s purely a personal choice thing - yes I appreciate this particular election is plagued with hate speech racism no less a very unsuitable Republican candidate - but that doesn’t mean I have to like Harris and considering I don’t have a vote, well I don’t see what the issue is.

Her speeches for starters don’t really do anything for me compared to say Clinton or Obama - I think circumstances have placed her where she is and I think she’s doing a hell of a lot better than I thought she would - but doesn’t mean I have to like her-she feels cold and detached to me - I don’t feel she has natural conviction or natural empathy - and if she doesn’t win I’m afraid that could well be the simple reason why - some voters just didn’t “warm” to her