Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

I'm curious how people pretending like Trump won't be "dictator on day one" as he has said in his own words, feel about the evidence documented here by MSNBC's Rachel Maddow, of even Vance ascribing to this political philosophy of as Vance says, ripping out government "like a tumor" and installing a "political religion" while openly citing Curtis Yarvin (one of the articles cited by Maddow here) - who espouses an agenda of gutting universities, "deleting" government and installing a Dictator, as evidenced in video here, arguing that the United States needs to get over its quote "Dictator Phobia:"

Given the amount of clear evidence of what the Trump-Vance agenda truly is, it's hardly a wonder why hundreds and hundreds of bipartisan endorsements have flooded in for Kamala Harris this cycle.

What you think lads, still "just joking?"

Purges, destroying universities, etc. history has been down these roads before - but maybe you wouldn't know that if you decided learning history was wokeism.

I guess when Vance once called Trump "America's Hitler" it wasn't a condemnation, it was a knowing endorsement.

The topic at hand is Trump vs Harris - I’m totally aware of what’s at stake here - I’m not convinced you are. If you wish to go down rabbit holes on sources, especially when this is international news no matter what link you post, the facts and what’s at stake are clear to all - I’m not getting into a “sources” argument with you - it’s not my idea of fun or discussion . Thanks anyway

and to illustrate my point in the time you started a ridiculous arguement over sources , Iran has struck Israel - the exact same story the Daily Mail was saying was about to happen

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/middle-east/iran-fires-hundreds-of-rockets-into-israel-as-israelis-take-cover-in-bomb-shelters-four-shot-dead-in-tel-aviv-terror-attack/a1323693951.html

Spite and rage.

Trump's purge rhetoric is more of the same, and it shows he has no respect for the Constitution yet again, cops using excessive or lethal force on suspects of crime violates the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th amendment in the Bill of Rights. Trump continues to demonstrate he is actually incapable of faithfully taking the oath of office.

What's ironic is he did this on Saturday at the Auburn homecoming game, with boxes of chicken tenders.

https://www.kxan.com/video/donald-trump-tosses-chicken-tenders-into-crowd-at-college-football-game/10085819/

But something something 'biden isn't taking the hurricane seriously' - Trump was fiddling with bread and circuses while people were drowning. (He'd also call this "buying votes" if anyone else did it)

It's all about spite at the end of the day,

I'd love to see someone do a genuine deep dive in to it. Someone who I would trust in terms of them looking at it entirely objectively.

Pretty sure he's supporters fall in to a few main buckets

1. Die Hard Republican. Always voted Red, always will and will reluctantly do so again
2. Anti everything and anything that can be conceived as being liberal and so he is the choice.
3. Anti the perceived status quo or 'Washington' mindset, sees Trump as an outsider to that.
4. Knows that they will benefit directly from his tenure. Tax break, immigration rhetoric. Persuing MAGA!
5. Genuinely believes he is best for the country.

I'm sure there's some overlap and so on and probably more subdivisions and no matter what he does categories 1-4 are locked in solid, if they vote, it's going to be for him.

So you would think that that only leaves group 5 to focus on to attempt to change, but that's the group that we all think is full of those who have a very different interpretation of politics, diplomacy, decency and how to assess these traits. I lived in the US for a few years that overlapped the last election and had a lot of friends who were Republican including some highly qualified people who voted for him. But they fell in to group 3 more or less and a few more who were in group 1 and 1 who was heavily in group 4.

I spoke to nobody, and have seen what feels like zero interviews who I feel doesn't fall in to categories 1-4 but who still objectively understands current affairs and governance who would support him because they feel he is genuinely the best choice. Any independents I spoke to about it at the time all said they were no fans of either party, but couldn't choose him. (I should say, people don't discuss politics as much or as openly there as maybe they do in Ireland so they might not have revealed themselves fully when I was talking to them.

So, I don't think it's 'all about spite', it definitely is for a lot I feel, definitely all who are loud supporters I feel, but not everyone who will vote for him falls in to that category.

It's worth mentioning also, voter turn out will influence things massively, if 5M people decide they're sick of the whole scene because of the rhetoric, Israel etc etc and they don't actually vote, it could massively influence the result but we'll still end up talking about how people 'choose' or 'rejected' him when the truth could be very different. As I said, I'd love to see an objective assessment of why people vote for him.

well you could say Biden is fiddling whilst Lebanon burns too - it works both ways - let’s face it, America suits itself .

Reckon his new mare, Laura Loomer, is riding him to his death, just his type - the chosen one, he's giving her 46 years.

Kimble isn't real. It's a troll. Just another example of twitter being a sh*thole of unverifiable posts that just look like they might be true.

That's a rather lazy deflection and a butchering of the saying: Nero wasn't in charge of Lebanon, he was in charge of Rome.

Biden is not at all 'fiddling' either, as we know from Republican governors he is actively helping with rescue and recovery efforts after Hurricane Helene.

Sorry but that's a very good satire account. Not a real Congressman.

you’ve answered my question - thanks - you’ve no interest in debating and discussing Trump vs Harris in the election in terms of the breaking war - go back to your myopia and narrow focus - if Trump wins which is an increasing possibility, I WILL remind you of this post.

Eh no- I made a legitimate on topic comment about war breaking out in the Middle East and how it may impact this election - if you don’t have the ability to partake then fine -

so it doesn’t suit your agenda - fine - but don’t tell me where to go or what to do - I’m completely on topic - you talking about my sources for breaking news aren’t - I’m clearly talking Harris Trump -

MyPillow guy selling pillows for $14.88

That's a weird price you say?

Just lemme do a quick Google....

Oooohhhhh....

Middle East on the brink of all out war.read all about it in your favourite news source - I couldn’t care less where you read it.

But the truth of the matter is- this WILL impact the outcome of this election - Trump is definitely favoured as a leader on wartime - that’s fact.
Will it detract from Harris voters? Well who knows - it would be good to discuss but so far, poster abuse is the order of the day - if anyone wishes to discuss go ahead

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13912927/Israel-vows-retaliate-Irans-barrage-missiles-Middle-East-war.html