Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

Didn't Trump introduce dog eating to the discussion in the first place?

I couldn't get this image / analogy out of my head when it comes to trump and his followers.

He issues a statement and his followers come behind, working hard, cleaning/interpreting/sane washing what he said

Actually I'd say part of the problem with Trump supporters is that an unfortunately fair percentage of them are well educated, very smart and very rich (and selfish) and are willing to overlook all his obvious faults, which they are well aware, of because of how his election would personally benefit them.

The debate tonight between Walz and Vance should be hot. If Biden's response to Helene [as narrated] by Trump] is raised by Vance, the obvious response is for Walz to ask Vance is why does your running partner lie so often about it and do you stand by him with his lies. The option is also there for Walz to use Trump's words against Vance [though taking the high ground in support of Helene's victims would be appreciated by them more than using them as campaign fodder].

In any case, that question is open to Trump supporters [from home and abroad] here; will you, without equivocation, face up to him and call him out on his lies about Helene or opt to ignore his lies?

I differentiate between conservative old school Republicans and MAGA. OSRs are hanging in there because that's where their livelihoods are. They are not Trump fans and don't comment on his obvious lies and wackier musings. It's one of many fault lines in the GOP and if the US had a more representative electoral system that simply wasn't comprised of two parties, you would see them as a separate entity. There's already a trend of OSRs endorsing Harris because they are now the only party serious about governing with any sort of competence and respect for the constitution.

Trump has drawn level again with a lot of the bookies. Can't see anything in latest opinion polls that might be driving this. Maybe punters are anticipating a barnstormer from Vance in the debate?

I’m not worried about Walz. Will be a similar playbook to Kamala at the first debate, prelude the lying and the gish gallop of his opponent and stick to what matters.

Are we doing another bingo card?

That's just general mood and statistics, I would say. I mean, if I absolutely had to put a winning bet on the election today, I would go with Trump as well.

why does that remind me of the “fck off, Jesus” meme?

I couldn’t care less about the source I chose - the reality is war is breaking out in the middle east and it could well benefit Trump - choose whatever flavour of news- Channel 4, John Cravens Newsround- doesn’t matter, the message is still the same

It's been mentioned a few times, ever since around the time he was shot at, his behavior has drastically changed IMHO. Might simply be PTSD or something though.

So you don't think there's any political editorial going on in news outlets?