Israel are going to start WWIII

Does anybody have the right to defend themselves when Israel attacks them?

Jerusalem post

In biblical contexts, the Euphrates River is often mentioned as a significant boundary in the promises made to the Jewish people regarding the Land of Israel.

If one looks at a map, they will be astounded by how far north this river extends and how vast the Land of Israel truly is. While we may not be able to reclaim all of it in our time, Hashem will surely return it to us soon.

A key question that their supporters ignore. Israel is always the "victim" and acting purely out of self defence, even when they attack their neighbours with colossal military force. This narrative means that Israel can never be seen as a colonial aggressor or guilty of war crimes, only as a benign and peaceful state "fighting for its survival".

my family heritage is northern Irish unionist

I didn't know one inherited personal experience! How much time did you spend in Northern Ireland during the troubles? Did you go to school there? Did you work there?

If not, you may as well say that Kamala Harris has a deeper understanding of the India-Pakistan conflict simply because of her heritage than people who actually live there.

Or that Trump understands German history and communism because of his origins.

But none of that is disputed. I am only disputing the claims that Northern Ireland can serve as evidence that armed conflict, or paramilitaries in general, bring about improvements in the lives of ordinary people. They didn't in NI and they don't.

And as you say, that's really all there is to say about that.

Back on topic, here's a "journalist" who illustrates the problem of thinking that supporters of Islamists are in any way interested in degenerate western issues like journalistic objectivity:

On the plus side, the reported death (I think, not yet confirmed) of Nasrallah's replacement at the head of Hezbollah yesterday really makes me wonder about the quality of those who are left to take over at this stage.

You really can’t have it both ways.

If Israel is the“jewish” state, and if it claims to act in the name of the jews - of all jews worldwide - as so many of its supporters on this forum say, if Israel and the zionists conflate the words “israel” “zionist”and “jew” - then you cannot complain if others have ended up doing so too.

But you have now lost all control of the narrative. Israel/zionist actions over the past 12 months have cost you that. And you will pay for this in so many ways, leading eventually to the end of your vicious little apartheid state.

You have brought the world to the brink of nuclear war. Such is your hubris and so great is the evil in your version of Mordor that in fact I will actually not be surprised - horrified, certainly - if I wake up one day to discover that Israel has used its nuclear weapons, killing millions more without a qualm or a worry. Your hubris is incredible, as we see every day on this forum, with a variety of posters lauding every disgusting action by Israel and egging them on to further evil, laughing about and crowing over each successive massacre, whether of a military commander – or of civilians, children and even pregnant women.

Our government strategically mouth off on Palestine to deflect their destruction of our basic services and reliance on a fragile multi national tax income

Today's problems stem directly from the Versailles Treaty and the resultant rise of Nazi Germany. I don't think it's fair to proscribe blame to the Middle East. The region was the main recipient of the bad consequences of the end of WW2 which was a result of mistaken decisions made decades earlier to punish Germany harshly after WW1.

The aftermath regarding those Jews that survived in Europe was that, to our detriment as we know now, they were given a blank cheque to establish a "homeland".

If the Allies had known then about all the trouble and violence and upheaval in the region that the establishment of the state of Israel would lead to it would never have happened.

We are are were we are. God fearing fanatics on all sides fighting each other in a never ending war.

If the allies knew the trouble the Jews would cause?

Do the people running Israel for the last 26 years claim to be Jews?