Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

One could be cynical and say a two party system is the best mechanism to generate political donations

"A whistleblower from the Secret Service also reported the security detail at the golf course broke protocol and failed to check the course adequately or they would have caught the would be assassin when he was in hiding."

They did catch the would-be assassin when he was in hiding. He never got a shot off, he was shot at by the Secret Service who spotted him during their checks.

So first it's that they failed to their job, then when shown that they did, it's "dumb luck".

I wonder why Gaetz of all people is saying he has a whistleblower with all these attention-grabbing secrets…

Those who complain about fake news sure to love spreading their own fake news.

That’s an incredibly scary article - post election 2020 was all about lies of a stolen election with absolutely no basis - and we saw how that worked out- imagine this time there was actually a legal basis or at the very least even a very unclear legal position - that’s one fcking scary outcome - let’s hope Harris achieves a massive overwhelming victory - we know Trump will still call fraud but as long as it’s simply hot air he can fart around all he likes - if he has clear legal standing and the election is that close, a whole other ballgame

Trump's a private citizen now. Secret Service detail is likely to be smaller as you state. He gets more due to his nomination. When POTUS, Trump had a huge detail, something like 42 people protected incl. 18 family members.

Plus, you won't find any details of just how many there are in place.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/05/18/secret-service-protection-biden-trump/9707892002/

I was reading through a news report today on the presence of the would-be "assassin" on the golf course waiting for Trump to show up and the secret service securing the golf course while Trump was there. It seems to be accepted by all sides that the man was in the bushes by the fence with the rifle you mentioned where the agent saw it and fired several warning shots.

It seems to me that the agent doing point duty sweeping the area where Trump would be golfing later did exactly what he was supposed to do, in that his shooting also alerted Trump, his close-up security team and his golfing guest that there was a danger to Trump in the area, at which he was taken away to a secure area for his safety.

For some reason, the Daily Mail, which is very much biased towards publishing news stories putting Trump in a good light [and others not in his camp in a negative light] referred to the rifle as the "alleged" rifle as if there is some doubt that there was an abandoned rifle found in the hedge.

One bonus for Trump, for the politicians and for the agent concerned, is that the malefactor was not shot dead and can answer questions on his activities on the course to satisfy any concerns Trump and the GOP have about him. The agent was also able to go home in a good state of mind.

OK on the 'Russia collusion' thing please take any one of these points and disprove it with a citation, please, gwan, we all know you're an oracle of truth.

- The Mueller investigation did NOT exonerate Trump

- The phrase "no collusion* appears nowhere in the Mueller report

- Not only did the Mueller probe discover this, but also a Republican led senate panel found that Russia did, in fact, engage in "information warfare" and attempted to interfere in the 2016 election to the benefit of the Trump campaign and with the intention of damaging Clinton's

- Mueller says the Russians directly targeted our election systems. 

- Russian intelligence conducted computer intrusion operations against entities, employees and volunteers working on the Clinton campaign. Translation — Russia used the Internet to fool American voters and hackers to attack Democratic computer networks.

- According to Mueller's report, the Russian campaign began in mid-2014. That's when the employees of what's known as the "Internet Research Agency" first came to the U.S. to gather the material that they would later use in their elaborate interference campaign.

- By the end of 2016, the Russians had set up fake social media accounts that reached millions of voters aimed at promoting Trump or dividing Americans.

- The Mueller report lays out how the Russian interference campaign ensnared real American political operatives, including the Trump campaign and its allies.

- For more than 100 pages, Robert Mueller lays out scores of Russian contacts with the Trump campaign or the Trump presidency.

- According to the report, Russian agents also posed as American citizens and tried to communicate with the Trump campaign to ask them for assistance. 

- Despite the reports conclusion, Mueller writes that, "there were numerous links between the campaign and the Russians, that several people connected to the campaign lied to his team and tried to obstruct their investigation into their contacts with the Russians."

- WikiLeaks contacted the Russians privately on Twitter, saying: "If you have anything Hillary-related, we want it in the next two days preferable." And then, on July 22, three days before the Democratic National Convention began, WikiLeaks released more than 20,000 emails and other stolen documents. It was a clear attempt to embarrass Clinton and weaken her candidacy.

- In 2013, Donald Trump takes his Miss Universe Pageant to Moscow. The Mueller report points out, this is how the Trumps got to know Aras Agalarov, a Russian billionaire and ally of Vladimir Putin. He owned the event hall where the pageant was held.

- Things start moving pretty quickly. Within a few months, Donald Trump Jr. signs a preliminary agreement with Agalarov's company to build a big Trump Tower property in Moscow. Trump announces his run for presidency in 2015.

- Mueller points out that, three months later, a new effort to build the Trump Tower in Moscow begins, this time led by Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen, and developer Felix Sater.

- Meanwhile, Felix Sater tells Michael Cohen he's working with high-level Russian officials. He emails Cohen, saying, "Buddy, our boy can become president of the USA, and we can engineer it. I will get all of Putin's team to buy in on this."

- The Moscow Trump Tower project is just one source of Russian contacts. Mueller outlines about a dozen of them in total. They vary widely.

- Campaign aide Carter Page meets with Russians and gives a speech in Russia. 

- Michael Flynn gives speeches in Russia and has numerous contacts with the Russian ambassador, including a discussion of softening sanctions.

- Foreign policy and national security adviser, Jeff Sessions, also meets with the Russian ambassador.    

- Campaign chairman Paul Manafort regularly shares internal polling data with a man tied to Russian intelligence.

- Fellow Trump aide George Papadopoulos repeatedly meets with a different man connected to Russian intelligence, who tells Papadopoulos the Russians have dirt on Hillary Clinton.

- Another contact point was the infamous New York Trump Tower meeting on June 9, 2016. That morning, Donald Trump Jr. tells colleagues he has a lead on negative information about Hillary Clinton. Russians pitched the meeting to Trump Jr., claiming they had dirt on Clinton. Trump Jr. responds, "If it's what you say, I love it."

- On Page 77, Mueller writes: "The acting attorney general appointed a special counsel on May 17, 2017, prompting the president to state that it was the end of his presidency."

- The Washington Post revealed that the president is under investigation for obstruction of justice. According to Mueller, three days later, President Trump tells White House counsel Don McGahn to call acting Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to say Mueller has conflicts and can't serve anymore. The president says Mueller has to go. McGahn doesn't comply.

- Mueller outlines in the report that Trump was found to have obstructed justice at least ten times

- Mueller chose not to indict due to the DOJ and Bill Barr's insistence that a sitting president cannot be indicted.

- Another serious charge about the president is that he tried to block Mueller from investigating him or his campaign.

- On page 89, Mueller writes: "Substantial evidence indicates the attempts to remove the special counsel were linked to investigations of the president's conduct."

- On Page 97, "Substantial evidence indicates that the president's effort to limit the special counsel's investigation was intended to prevent further scrutiny of the president's and his campaign's conduct."

- the investigation led to the indictments of 34 individuals

- Trump's campaign staff presented themselves as "attractive counterintelligence vulnerabilities"

- The steel dossier had nothing to do with Mueller's findings. In fact, the first probe began prior to the steele dossier being released and the investigation began in response to Russian cyber attacks on the DNC (find her emails!), and intel describing a Russian plot to reach out to the Trump campaign and provide information on Clinton.

- Trump encouraged Russia on national TV to engage in cyber attacks against Democrats. "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing."

- within five hours of candidate Trump saying those words, Russians largest foreign intelligence service targeted Clinton's personal office for the first time

- Both Rick Gates and Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI 

- Roger Stone was charged with obstructing and lying to Congress about his contacts and the release of documents stolen by the Russians.

I just wonder how much of the Secret Service's resources are used to protect Trump, who goes from Bedminstar to Mar a Lago to New York and to several golf courses from week to week? Joe Biden seems to have a lifestyle whhich puts less demands on the Sevret Service.