Enoch Burke turns up to school again despite sacking - read OP before posting

Why was Ingrid Miley at the law society stand?

You know when the mother and rest of the family are ranting at someone asking them questions about their poor little Enoch in prison, why don't they turn the tables on them and start throwing questions at them? why are you demonizing trans people? would Jesus target Trans people like you are doing or would he love everyone and treat them with respect? why did you home school your kids? etc etc give them a taste of their own medicine.

Yes, it was.

I'm sure the odd person does, but it doesn't make the final cut of their videos.

Their reputation precedes them as well at this stage. People feel like there's no point debating them.

And also, maybe the real truth of it is, you are falling into their trap. They don't really want debate or answers: they want confrontation.

Did they really think they were going to get a solution, at a stand manned by volunteers at the ploughing championship? What they want is maximum public disturbance; to get into a shouting match.

They can't really debate in a meaningful sense - which is ironic, considering all their prizes won for exactly that. I've never seen in any video, or read in any court report, a single instance of them giving ground or altering their position about anything: just absolute certainty and righteousness at all times.

So, if they can't be debated, the alternative is to beat them at their own game and try to browbeat them. I think that would be a zero sum game. You'll never convince them and what purpose does it serve - most people with a brain in their head can already see them for the hypocritical, intolerant and close minded crowd that they are.

I agree that he can't stay in jail forever but it would take some mediator to sort out this mess. That mediator would never be idle if they can sort that out.

Interesting take on Simeon’s plight in the IT this morning. The headline is misleading though, that’s not the writer’s opinion

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2024/09/20/someone-needs-to-give-simeon-burke-a-barrister-job-for-all-our-sakes/

Also saw Sean Guerin is head of the Bar Council. He’ll make this much worse than it needs to be. Admonished by the Supreme Court for his hatchet job on Alan Shatter. How does a barrister write a report and make findings into Shatter’s handling of a matter without interviewing him at all? Simeon has some hope, that is, being mistreated and later vindicated in Court with that fool in charge.

I don't see anything there about transphobia, I looked up the PDF and saw this though

Background
The Equality Action Plan Working Group, a sub-committee of the Equality and
Resilience Committee, has consulted the insights and expertise of relevant
stakeholders in order to better understand the challenges faced by
underrepresented, disadvantaged and minority groups in accessing and pursuing
a career at the Bar. Among those consulted were: AsIAm, Ireland’s national autism
charity; the Association for Higher Education Access & Disability (AHEAD); the
National Disability Authority; the Dyslexia Association of Ireland; the Immigrant
Council of Ireland; the National Women's Council; the Irish Traveller Movement;
the Irish Network Against Racism; and, the OUTLaw Network. We are indebted
to those who gave so generously of their time and feedback.

He'll hit retirement age eventually…

(Edit: to clarify, Enoch, and maybe then he'll accept his teachin' days are over?)

My ex to a tee

I don't think she was eyeing her up in admiration!

Her look was disapproving and judgemental, with just a hint of scorn.

'It may be hard to have too much sympathy for Burke, but his plight raises questions about access to the profession for those whose world view does not conform to the rather narrow one that prevails in society. That is not healthy for any democracy that draws its judges from such a shallow pool. Particularly one such as ours that is undergoing dramatic and far-reaching change.'

A few things. Firstly, access to the profession such as it is, is a meritocracy. His personal demeanour and public facing profile is a crucial part of a barrister's stock and it should be no surprise to him that his family are making him a laughingstock in the profession. Moreover, how could he be tasked with representing a gay or trans person without prejudice. It would even be a bad look if he had to appear against a gay or trans person as his prejudice is already widely known. The IT's point about a healthy democracy is therefore laughable, given that his very presence at the Bar would be an explicit admission by the legal profession that certain people's rights will be ignored or poorly serviced. So while he won't get taken on here, he'd be valued in the States and other places where preserving democracy seems to be an afterthought for some.

But they aren't the only ones who can record a video. put up the unedited video.

How many of the comments are from real people in Ireland though?

I don't agree with the Burkes family behaviour at all. Horrible people. However I don't like that idea that a practicing a profession is closed off to a person based solely on the fact that their an asshole. At the end of the day, it should be the public and paying clients to determine if some can practice, and not necessarily anyone else (one they passed all the necessary exams etc.)