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Hezbollah pager explosions

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  • #2
    Jim_Hodge
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    Saw this on the news. Nobody is even speculating how it could have been done. Seems bizarre.



  • #3
    [Deleted User]
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    That's a serious medium to long term strategy. Make them stop using smart phones, secretly supply them with exploding pagers, call them all at the same time months/years later. Watching some of the videos, they seem to be designed for very small local explosions, with people standing a foot away looking confused. Wonder who came up with this? Some are suggesting it was Mossad. Incredible act of sabotage, with little damage to anyone or anything else in the vicinity. Genius stuff.



  • #4
    Quitelife
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    Israel will kill us all for a finish up - horrible evil nation of bullies



  • #5
    [Deleted User]
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    desmond-llewelyn-who-plays-q-james-bond-movies-21299367.jpg~2.jpg

    Xxx



  • #6
    magicbastarder
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122625912#Comment_122625912

    raises the question - why now? why not six months ago, say?



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  • #7
    TheRepentent
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    Didn't even know pagers were still a thing. Everyday is a school day I guess.



    https://www.btselem.org/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes


  • #8
    Deebles McBeebles
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    Laser disc players could be next.



  • #9
    Victor
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122625934#Comment_122625934

    https://www.rte.ie/news/middle-east/2024/0917/1470395-middle-east/

    "Yesterday, Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu expanded the country's goals for the war in Gaza, vowing to allow Israelis who fled areas near the Lebanon border to return to their homes." - that's why.



  • #10
    Dohnjoe
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    Extraordinary. A lot of speculation going on, perhaps devices developed with X grams of RDX inside.

    Edit: Up to an estimated thousand Hezbollah members affected now, with some deaths.



  • #11
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122625934#Comment_122625934

    Just reading up about it a little more. Hard to gauge but I think it's just a case of coverage. It takes time to coordinate something like this. You want to target as many terrorists as possible but you can't wait indefinitely. Hezbollah will be rocked by this. How would they coordinate any defence? Imagine this leaves them pretty vulnerable to further attacks now, which is fantastic news.



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  • #12
    Brussels Sprout
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    If you know you know

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  • #13
    magicbastarder
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    from the guardian: '(Hezbollah) believe the attack was in response to the alleged assassination attempt by Hezbollah on a former top Israeli defence official, revealed on Tuesday by the Israeli Shin Bet security agency."

    also could be that mossad realised the doctored pagers (if they were indeed doctored) were on the cusp of being discovered? that's pure spitballing though.



  • #14
    Randycove
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    this is proper James Bond stuff. Q would be so proud.

    Kind of reminds me of the plot in the first Kingsman with the exploding heads.



  • #15
    plodder
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    Crazy stuff. You'd roll your eyes if it were in a James Bond movie. Presumably, the pagers had to be modified. It's ironic that criminals and terrorists are loathe to use off the shelf tech because they assume the authorities will be spying on them. Wasn't there some kind of similar (but non exploding) sting recently on big criminal gangs in Europe and the US who were caught because the customised equipment they thought was secure had been compromised, probably in a similar way to this ruse? Probably in both cases the equipment had to be physically modified by some country's security services before being supplied to the users. Something like this would have to be planned years in advance though, you'd think.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • #16
    Victor
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626070#Comment_122626070

    "Presumably, the pagers had to be modified." It just might be possible to do something to make the battery explode.



  • #17
    Ash.J.Williams
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122625914#Comment_122625914

    No they won't



  • #18
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122625946#Comment_122625946

    They were told to use them instead of phones. Hassan Nasrallah (Hezbollah leader) previously warned the group's members not to carry mobile phones, alleging Israel could use them to track their movements. Guessing that is reason why they are using pagers.



  • #19
    magicbastarder
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626087#Comment_122626087

    I am far from an expert on these things, just went on a quick Google. The primary causes listed for an explosion are physical damage or overcharging. I suspect they'd be far more likely to catch fire than explode, but the media is talking just about explosions.



  • #20
    weisses
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    Im calling it

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  • #21
    TheValeyard
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626104#Comment_122626104

    Would that not be for mobiles though? Do pagers have the same kind of batteries even, since they're an older tech?

    Absolutely mad tactic. Very out of the box thinking.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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  • #22
    plodder
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626087#Comment_122626087

    Who knows for sure, but it seems unlikely to me. Even when lithium batteries go on fire, they are designed to contain the remnants rather than explode afaik.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • #23
    TheValeyard
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    Some people are very quick

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    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • #24
    magicbastarder
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    I assume if the pagers themselves are new, they'd have modern batteries. If they're particularly old, that might imply that mossad hatched this plan many years ago and only hit the big red button now?

    Worth noting that from the video or two I've seen, they exploded within seconds of being paged - sounds far too quick to let heat build or batteries to overload?



  • #25
    magicbastarder
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    Latest from the guardian, the health minister in the Lebanon states that there are 8 dead and nearly 2.8k injured.



  • #26
    TheValeyard
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    Presuming there will be a significant response from Hezbollah at some stage

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • #27
    Cordell
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122625946#Comment_122625946

    One-way communication, unlike mobile phones that can be used to guide missiles.

    Also, hahahaha, fair play Mossad! Pure genius move.



  • #28
    [Deleted User]
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    II wouldn't discount the possibility that it was a technological hack to cause the batteries to overheat. I just rebooted my phone while it was charging and it got uncomfortably hot so I can see how you could possibly cause a runaway thermal reaction in a small device such as a pager or phone.



  • #29
    Astartes
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    This is much better than cluster bombing a crèche. Fair play



  • #30
    plodder
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    Iran’s ambassador to Lebanon was carrying one of them.

    Amani’s wounds were “superficial”, state media are reporting, adding that he was “conscious and in no danger”.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



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  • #31
    TheValeyard
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626178#Comment_122626178

    This confirmed. Thought it was only a rumour? If he dies....

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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