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Second Captains Part II

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Tucker.Tim


    Naw this is just fúcking funny at this point. Wallowing in self-flagellation is what we do best anyways.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Yeah, I couldn't help thinking Eoin's not gonna like that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,580 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    He tweeted about it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Tucker.Tim


    Sounds like the FAI’s crack team of football geniuses have delivered first class entertainment again with the Icelandic vibes guy and the assistant manager who is actually his boss.

    At least the podcasts will be good if this continues going tits up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Battery Kinzie


    Found the lads, particularly Damien Delaney, a bit over-the-top gloomy yesterday. Hard to take too much away from a game against England really, tonight will be the big one.

    And is it just me, or is it a bit weird that they were calling the John O'Shea Interview thing a farce, when to me it seemed as though it only became a farce because the media kept asking O'Shea who the boss was. It struck me as another situation where the lads (and the 'media' in general) don't realise how little the average Joe cares about media duties and press conferences. Or am I wrong here?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    the Irish football media are extremely influential with online based fans. They are able to influence fans to think a home defeat to Luxembourg is acceptable while an away draw with Georgia is totally unacceptable.


    now they are able to bring a narrative into question about Heimar’s willingness to do the job because of body language in a huddle and skipping a presser while when the last manager struggled badly to articulate himself in media pressers, nothing was mentioned in the media about these struggles or what they said about him being able to run a elite dressing room



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,640 ✭✭✭Musicrules


    The Kenny faction have made a show of themselves in the last few years. Firstly by continually backing a clueless manager as he went from one failure to the next and now trying to oust his successor after 1 game. The truth is that the squad may not be of the highest quality but their confidence is absolutely shot. Being managed by a man who couldn't string a sentence together and guiding them to numerous embarrassments has left this squad devoid of any belief.

    They are much better than they showed on Saturday but it will take time to pick them up off the floor. I expect a much better performance tonight and hopefully a recovery can be made. Whether Heimar is the right man for the recovery remains to be seen but at least give him the Nations League before making any judgements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,580 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    I'm a big fan of Branno and I make no apologies! The polo report was great stuff



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭Beersmith


    Typical delaney, smug superior character. What has done coach/management wise that he knows so much has always made me wonder about him. He is clearly a tactical genius going by what he talks about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,581 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Felt like O'Sheas answer to the continuous question of "will the players be confused over who the boss is" should've been; "he's the one out there actually working with the players before the match tomorrow, while I'm here talking to you".

    The lads have been so continuously cold on Hallgrimsson since the first moment he was announced. It's a bit weird. As Eoin touched on, and was then ignored, surely it was a good thing that he was using those extra few hours with the team, given how much the lads all pushed on him having to make his mark. Ken bizarrely was making a big deal of this being the first window - as if that isn't the strongest argument the other way. Once the players have bedded in and know what he's about in future windows then nipping off for pressers won't be a big deal, as it'll be all about small changes by then hopefully. It's precisely because its the first window that it's good that he's getting every minute he can on the training field with them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Tucker.Tim


    You mean the presser where the manager was obligated to appear in is it? It’s like saying why are people weirded out by the minster for finance not announcing tbe budget, it just is something glaring when the Icelandic lad spent the week saying he wasn’t really at the wheel.

    Responses like this have the same smack off them as the ones where people swore blind for a year that the FAI weren’t making an utterly embarrassing hash of the search for a new manager. The lads are the ones on the money as usual.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,581 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    It's more like the minister for finance not appearing for a minor presser a few days before the budget, because he has budgety things to get done. As they said, the FAI got dispensation for Hallgrimsson to stay working with the team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Tucker.Tim


    Heimer must have been listening to the podcast because he’s doing a mountain of gyrating and gesticulating during this break in play



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,804 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    Things are grim enough with this team, not sure I want to listen to Delaney ranting and raving over tonight's performance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Tucker.Tim


    If you don’t enjoy the misery are you even an Irish supporter



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,804 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    Anyone know who the London guests are?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭Smell the glove


    Manu Petit and Katie McCabe by the looks of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Tucker.Tim


    I’m not paying them three quarters of a chicken fillet roll a month to hear an ad read for their sponsored hotel stay



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭choosetheend


    I'm happy enough listening to them talk up a Hotel Chain or Airline if they're getting free flights and accomodation or whatever. Doesn't bother me that much.

    The get sponsorship from hotels, airlines and beer companies mostly. I'm not completely okay with the corporatisation of the podcast, but at least they're not gambling companies or conflict of interest type stuff.

    I find the bits when they talk up their sponsors pretty funny usually.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Tucker.Tim




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭choosetheend


    Ha! Fair enough. I liked your chicken fillet roll price comparison.

    Some people do get mad about the sponsorship though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    It doesn’t really bother me but I’m old enough to remember them touting the World Service as ‘ad free’ and ‘member led’ (whatever that meant).


    How that description tallies with them shilling for a three-star hotel chain I don’t know



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭bren2001


    Have you listened to the non-subscriber feed on a Monday? That has proper ad reads.

    One or two ad reads in that manner a year doesn't bother me in the slightest on the world service feed.

    It most definitely is member led in that they're not bowing down to Dennis OBrien or an equivalent. They decide what their narrative is and people either sub or they don't. They've no higher power to answer to except their subscribers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭choosetheend


    I remember that. They were still calling themselves ad-free when they were promoting Aer Lingus' flights to San Francisco. But I don't think they use that phrase any more, maybe they still do?

    I agree with what you're saying anyway, but like you I'm not too bothered. I suppose I'm happy to see the lads doing well, even if they could afford to pay for their hotels rooms, I don't mind them getting them for free.

    I actually wouldn't mind staying in the calm, comfortable and sophisticated settings of a high quality Maldron Hotel tonight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭dog_pig


    They probably shouldn’t describe themselves as commercial-free when they do actually run ads though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 thebigcheese2222


    Love the podcast but is anyone sick of their refusal to do Irish live shows outside of Dublin? Going to Berlin and London multiple times is a bit of a slap in the face. I have no doubt they would sell out Cork Galway Limerick or Belfast



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,580 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    They have done live shows from the country before. not in a while though. Maybe they know their demographic better than you though?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,031 ✭✭✭deisedude


    Probably moreso going to NYC, London or Berlin is sexier and more fun for them than Murph staying over at Mammy and Daddy's for a Galway show 🤣

    They would easily sell out Cork, Limerick, Galway anyway if they wanted to



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭iniall


    @bren2001

    Fixed your post:

    Have you listened to the non-subscriber feed on a Monday? That has proper ad reads.

    One or two ad reads in that manner a year doesn't bother me in the slightest on the world service feed.

    It most definitely is member led in that they're not bowing down to Benefattore or an equivalent. They decide what their narrative is and people either sub or they don't. They've no higher power to answer to except their subscribers.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭Beersmith


    That's not member led! That is just independent!



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