Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

’Landlords benefit’. Wow left wing politics definitely look different in these modern times. Left wing politics never cheered on landlords from what I remember. And yes we know landlords benefit. Look at how much some landlords are raking it in. Tough luck if you’re a potential tenant still living in your parents gaff though

Oh and LOL at the suggestion that teachers and nurses are benefitting. They are absolutely not getting paid extra, they’re being made to work more for the same level of pay. Teachers for example have much higher numbers to teach with no increased supports

No idea what your point is supposed to be. You listed landlords benefiting as a plus point. It’s strange to see left wing people cheer on landlords

But how are they benefitting?

You'd wonder how many drug dealers or worse are among the number they're protecting…..be hard enough to put an actual verified name to many let alone any history they might have

Meanwhile back in the land of reality and facts INTO say teacher shortages are reaching crisis point

https://www.into.ie/2024/08/28/teacher-shortages-reach-crisis-point-as-schools-reopen/

It was really really big.

You gave figures that show the number of teachers on the national register, not employment. You also have not provided figures of the increase of students. I gave a link from only days ago where INTO said there are teacher shortages. So you have nothing to back up your claims that teachers benefit from increased immigration

I am very touched by your concern for warehouse businesses in Ireland and their labour costs.

Going by your logic, we can increase migration further until we have so much labour that warehouse operatives are on minimum wage.

Why stop at warehouse workers either? We can saturate the economy with migrant labour until an even greater minority of workers are on minimum wage.

david williams said on brendan o,connor show today, immigration is ok for any country but IT has to be matched by increased services in housing medical services infrastructure .

we are short of doctors teachers nurses housing .young people are leaving .

i say you cannot have rapid increase in population and expect no problems .

you cant pour 2 pints into a one pint bottle .

britain has the same problem hence labours plan to increase taxs on everything to balance the budget .

its a catch 22 ,we need 1000s of builders but theres no where for them to live

You missed the point.

Your logic is that if we have more labour, we can reduce costs.

I said that if we have enough labour, we can reduce costs to below their basic cost.

I checked an app just now, I can get food delivered to my house for just €3.

The €3 probably just about covers the petrol. It doesn't cover the labour cost to deliver, nor the depreciation, insurance, on the vehicle.

A lot of what you call real world living is slavery.

Small businesses should exist, but they shouldn't be parasitical or exploitative.

’expendable’, ‘eradicate’, no one has used that language but you

This is not about low income families. This all came from a poster saying that low income AS are ultimately a net loss to the exchequer. You then claimed that they were a benefit to teachers, landlords, nurses etc. It’s not a thread about low income families. It’s a thread about immigration

Oh and if AS are so beneficial to businesses why are so many restaurants closing down in certain places? Because tourism has been destroyed in some parts that’s why

But that's exactly what you are saying. You want to eradicate asylum seekers and refugees. That's the while point of your posts on this thread ffs. You're not hearing arguing they should be allowed stay. Does the title of the thread not give it away? "Zero refugees" = eradicate them. You think people fleeing war and persecution should be forced to stay where they are and shouldn't be offered any help or protection. There expandable, you're happy for people to suffer war and persecution because the alternative impacts on your holiday plans in Ireland, and you don't want that to happen.

So low income immigrants are a net lose but low income Irish people are not? How does that logic work? It doesn't, that's how.

And tourism has seen significant increases in other parts.

As for the performance of restaurants and takeaways.

There are 8,674 Restaurants and Takeaways businesses in Ireland as of 2024, an increase of 0.7% from 2023.

Those pesky immigrants, coming over here and increasing the number of restaurants and takeaways operating in Ireland. A disgrace Joe, an utter disgrace.

We've been awash with greasy food for decades, as we can see with our massive increase in clinically obese citizens which puts enormous pressure on our health services.

There's plenty of good eggs who've come from elsewhere to contribute to this country and will continue to do so, but we can be discerning about who we allow in without being prejudiced.