Ticketmaster and dynamic pricing

yeah that’s a fair point, but the uniqueness and extreme irritating nature of it , it looks possible that it will be stopped in future. As I think you said it won’t alter overall prices or anything for something that’s in demand but it will be a lot more transparent and if you see yourself in a big queue number at least you can say ah they’ll probably be the mad dear ones, I’ll duck out.

Seatwave closed in 2018, 3 years before the Irish legislation was introduced.

There was a parliamentary question regarding this subject in February.

As I see it the law doesn't properly protect consumers. If your exercised by the issue of platinum tickets and dynamic pricing, I'd suggest contacting local representatives and lobby for the law to be changed.

https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2024-02-27a.479&s=Dynamic+pricing+models#g480.q

It changes the fact that you know the range of options. It is 100% better than not knowing before a lengthy queue. Course you still have to make a decision lol.

ah you don’t get it. It is a small difference but an important one.

It's not really when you see 6 days later people snapping up tickets at 400 and 500(probably one of the worst seats in the place) euro when they are fully informed and have had plenty time to consider their options(buy or don't buy) the length of queue, time to purchase etc make no odds. There are just people willing to do that.

what are you saying like, I know people loads that baulked at the 400 standing, if they’d have known the range they could have taken into account right im 40k in a queue no way am I getting original face value ill duck out and won’t waste Saturday. You just seem intent on defending a practice that is not seen in any other retail sale in history apart from other dynamic priced gigs.

Were people naive enough to think that all tickets were priced at 89.50?

Look, I can't see how it would have made any difference to the end result.

Ticket prices seem to have been 90, 120, 156, 170, 210, 415, 500 and possible a few in the middle of those. Even the "demand pricing" points seemed to be in an around there.

Do you think that information would have made any difference to how people approaced the sale? It was common knowledge that the starting point was 90 odd euro.

I am not saying they were right in not publishing the figures - they should be made publish them - my point is for a gig that was ridiculously oversubscribed and where people are still paying 400-500 euros it wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference.

You are arguing something completely different. Enjoy your weekend.

Jeez…hostile much? Was just pointing out it was a pain in the ass. Chill out a bit.

What if the tickets are the same price from all vendors? €250 € 400 and 500 for example? This would be defined by the artist. Granted there might be fee differences to the artist and the consumer.

If there was more than the one company, Ticketmaster, selling the tickets, there would be more competition between them to provide lower prices and a better service to customers. If a company develops a bad name for its service or high service costs, i.e. Ticketmaster, customers would be more likely to go to one of the others for their purchases. If a company brought in dynamic pricing and the other didnt, I know which company I would be going to.

There is no way that Ticketmaster could not have announced the prices or a more accurate list of their prices before the gig. Customers would have a better idea of what they would have to pay before sitting through the indefinite queuing. They could decide then if it was worth their while or not and not waste their time. As an example, it was done for the Garth Brooks gig in 2022.

Even with standard tiered pricing, where the prices are published prior to going on sale, the customer doesn't know what they will be presented with until they get to the top of the queue -you get this -right?

Patronising much? -Don't attack the poster if you cant attack the post.

Fair point! Didn't think about the non-Irish side of it.

Well the high paying fans get the usual regard from Liam:

https://www.joe.ie/entertainment/liam-gallagher-tells-oasis-fans-complaining-about-ticket-prices-to-shut-up-816993

to be repeated for the millionth time, ticketmaster have no involvement in the ticket prices. Competition to ticketmaster would have zero impact on ticket prices

There is the case here that venues themselves knock a quid or two off the ticket fee from what TM charge. That’s about height of reduction.

If another ticketing company sets up tomorrow and negotiates an allotment of oasis tickets the price they charge will be the exact same as TM. The promoter/artist isn’t going to give discounted tickets to new ticket company over TM.
this was a revenue maximisation exercise by oasis, truthfully they could have reduced the flat pricing allocation an throw thousands more on vip or dynamic and made a few million more for Croker.

now ticketmaster is a monopoly here and has achieved it through practices the competition authority and equivalent bodies across the world have deemed un competitive such as long term venue/promoter exclusivity deals.
ticketmaster pays healthy rebates to promoters, venues and artists for using them.
honestly out of all aspects of live nation monopoly ticketmaster is probably the least objectionable part. They charge fees and sell tickets.
every year there will be issues about their service when you have a Taylor or oasis show as any system probably couldn’t handle such sales. You now have artist management developing ways and means to deal with such crazy situations and none will figure out a good and fair way when you have demand that 5x -10x the venue capacity.