Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

Choice; Democracy - I don’t care if Mickey the Mouse is a candidate - the simple fact is all of us people here are observers looking in- what does that say for Americans who exercise their constitutional right to vote and choose someone other than Harris or Trump? The very fact there are more than just two candidates from two opposing sides means democracy is working - why don’t you have faith in democracy? Bullying people to vote for Harris to stop Trump is not democracy - it’s fascism .

Earlier you said it was communism. Contradicting your own posts in a short space of time... your claims have no credibility.

Trump trying to steal an election and incited a mob to storm the Capitol.

That is fascism though you ignore that.

But pointing out that in supporting Trump or not opposing him you enable him to try again to subvert democracy - is fascism (or is it communism) in your book.

Faith is not enough. We have seen democracy subverted around the world in history by such tactics. It must be actively defended and supported against its enemies. And Trump is a fascist enemy of democracy. The enemies of democracy can use and abuse it in the short run to destroy it in the long run.

Incredible you seem more troubled by posters who call this out than Trumps actual actions.

But if you think all it takes is faith in democracy - that is your argument after all. Then you declare your own posts here to be redundant.

So in order to preserve democracy, you’ll bully and force people to vote Harris - I see - can I change my mind and label that cubism? Coz it’s bizzare as cubism 🤪

In order to preserve democracy you need to use your vote.

The force and bullying was when Trump incited a mob to storm the Capitol. Not on a discussion forum where posters spell out the possible implications of voters abstaining and not supporting the only actual small d democrat in the race who can stop Trump.

Cubism? You can call it whatever you like, your claims still have zero credibility.

you posted this-

“And the likelihood of a candidate outside of the GOP or Dems winning is zero. So yes, working within the current system they are limited to Dems or the GOP. It's incredibly disingenuous to imply otherwise.”

Theyre not limited - they have “choice”- if they choose not to exercise that “choice”- that’s fine - but the “choice” is not limited to Rep or Dem - I don’t care what the “likelihood” is- I’ve never discussed “likelihood” - that’s your word not mine - right now Americans have “choice” - that’s a fact .

Sorry now but if you wish to talk credibility on this thread let’s talk about posters promoting racist acts against Republican candidates wives just for the lols - whilst telling others they’re Trump supporters for not voting Harris -,let’s talk about posters calling people “Trump supporters” just to shut down conversation and discussion - you’re in no position to lecture me that’s for sure

And it is missing the point entirely ... no criticism of the actual hateful racists but the poster who draws attention to the racism instead gets it.

Cant be bursting the "See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil" bubble when it comes to racist MAGA types seemingly.

Far from it - but you know that - I’m not going down rabbit holes with you - sorry, I’ve wasted enough time on this stupid concoktion of an argiement that “all non Harris voters are Trump supports”- as much credibility as the original version - all non Harris voters are repist sympathisers - have your believes couldn’t care less - nor do most people thankfully -I’m more interested in waiting on the verdict of Harris interview this evening - that will be interesting

Indeed, but this is also used as cover.

The equivalent of someone who knows that can't openly support e.g. Putin, so instead they endlessly criticise and nitpick his opposition, okay but it quickly becomes absurd because Putin is objectively magnitudes worse.

There's plenty of normal criticism for e.g. Harris, I'm not a big fan myself and have criticised her in the past - but if I solely focused on criticism of her, on minor points, whilst at the same time ignoring the major flaws in her opponent - then my agenda would quickly become obvious.

That's what occurs here a lot, to repeat once again, we have candidate A supporters who play a game of "sitting on the fence" simply because they know they can't defend that candidate. And revert back to acting up when called out on the obvious.

Trump flip flops on abortion again after Daily Mail asks him about it. This following reports he’s been trying to keep quiet about the issue in Florida, fearing high turnout at the ballot.

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-campaign-walks-back-his-supposed-support-of-florida-abortion-measure/

Harris is going to get destroyed in the debate with Trump. Her edited interview tonight just proves she's not up to the task, also looks like she has aged 10 years over night.

https://x.com/FrankLuntz/status/1829327636050628923?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet