Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

you’ve answered your own question, he wasn’t beaten, he left the race. You aren’t very good at this.

I believe I can say what I want about this election, and about either candidate.

I haven’t posted a Twitter post…are you ok?

You’re using a blanket term and insinuating that all dems support murderers (he wasn’t a murderer, by the way). That’s pretty pathetic, you’re losing ground here.

I can’t wait to hear all the excuses.

Another day, another night shift. This gets tedious. Sounds like all the same person, too.

In other news, Harris/Walz in a CNN interview 9p.m. Eastern tonight, so 2a.m. here.

Wake up and there's 50+ new posts on this thread, 'oh some significant must've happened', nope just another rereg troll. Seriously, reddit manages to put on a minimum comment count and/or account age before being able to post in subs, what's stopping the mods implementing something similar here?

Don't feed…

Cant wait to see what reallyrealdealmagadonaldtrumpforreal has to say tomorrow night

but other than all that, Trump seems a top guy. He says he will make america great again (?), and gives out red hats

Interesting, thanks. As a general query, would you know do most people donate money to their party in the US? I don’t think I’ve ever given a shilling to any party in Ireland.

I view Harris as a highly capable politician and think she'd be a good president. I also think overall Biden was a good president, better than expected even. I had issues with his policies on Israel but would apply to any US president.

Point 3 is an interesting one, because I feel it sort of suggests a degree of self-awareness in a MAGA supporter. It's almost like they know that Trump support can't be honestly defended in debate settings like on here, so they'll hide their preferences in order to wedge in a pro-MAGA viewpoint when they can.

Your typical: "I don't like Trump but…." person.

What facinates me is that in order to hide your MAGA membership you'd have to eventually examine why you are hiding it. Is there enough self-awareness that they subscribe to a movement that can't be defended? What kind of mental energy needs to be engaged to force yourself to ignore the harsh light of reality to stay on Team MAGA while play-acting as someone who isn't?

I wonder if it goes deep into our primal need to belong to a group. Maybe it's also the whole "sunken cost" thing, that after a decade of MAGA nonsense, some people might not like to admit that they pissed away a sizable chunk of their life? I'm certainly not happy spending the same amount of time debating the fundamentals of reality with neo-facisits instead of spending that time trying to debate ways to actually improve things.

If we still belong in the "good" reality, and Harris beats Trump, we'll hopefully see the end of MAGA in the coming couple of years. After that time there will alas be a lot of lost & angry people out there, who can hopefully be helped.

In politics if a candidate had been found to commit rape, you would be absolutely correct to criticise that candidate and those who support them. It's a no-brainer.

If those supporters waved it away and pointed to a far lesser indiscretion in some other candidate - you'd nail them.

If a candidate I supported was found liable for sexual assault, or was found guilty of fraud, or was complicit in supporting an insurrection - I wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

This is why people don't bother defending Trump here, they simply can't, so instead they resort to carrying out an act of "being impartial" and attacking much more minor things about opponents.

Ok, what positive things does Trump bring to the ticket?

The floor is yours as they say.

By the way, you asked what does Kamala bring, I gave you a summary of her achievements to date, did you have anything to say to it?

Super many thanks for the reply and information