Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

Interesting one, apparently Kamala is bringing out new voters.

https://newrepublic.com/article/185354/bad-news-trump-surprise-data-shows-pro-kamala-surge-new-voters

'active lying' is a big claim you haven't remotely justified.

There's a world of difference between Biden being in a 25th amendment situation and one where he is ok to carry on until end of term for President but not up to the demands of another election and Presidency.

So, would you care to answer the question @Yvonne007 ?

So, the long-time GOP types are publicly not supporting Convicted Felon Trump because they don't like him anymore? Is that it? You see, these GOP types have other options, like shutting up about CFTrump, but they're coming out and saying they won't support him.

Democrats, too, have options other than supporting Harris, yet, her popularity grows. And she's only been the candidate for a couple months, otherwise had the backoffice job of VP.

People are liking Harris more because they're learning more about her, listening to her speeches and policies. They didn't know her well before, though she was pretty popular in her home state, which for the record is the world's 5th largest economy on its own, she was their elected Attorney General, which is a BIG TIME JOB as well as Senator. Attorney General, by the way, is more than prosecutor, they run an enormous, complicated organization.

I sense she is a capable canditate for the role of President. We've yet to see if she would be a good President, but that's almost always true of a new canditate for the role. We didn't get to see much of her in the VP role, but that appears to be typical of a VP. We didn't really see much of Biden for a lot of Obama's time either.

She's not new to politics and appears able to actually perform functional roles in government and lately has shown to be able to project a message & theme for their campaign. She also made the choice to bring Walz onto the ticket which appears to be a sign of some wisedom. She appears to be educated, and not a blithering idiot, unlike the GOP's pick.

You're main message when posting here appears to be: "Harris is not good, she's only liked because she isn't Trump". I'd disagree on first point, and on the second is only partially true. She is liked because she is not Trump, but I would add that I believe that she is also liked because is Kamala Harris.

You are very focused on the unsuitablilty of Harris, I must then ask….how do you feel about Trump?

Nope. A lie is a big claim and you haven't come close to it.

He looked like he was ready until it was apparent he was not and the polls were bleak. Requires no lies.

Your negative claims about the Democrats are getting bigger, and getting further and further from any evidence to back them up.

All the while, when it comes to Republicans it seems to be hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.

Their bench is so strong this cycle that they're pulling hundreds of endorsements from the other bench, and not from "RINOs" either, but from some people who have been Republican strategists and officials etc. since the 1980s, back before when Trump was still a Democrat or a Reform Party member.

I feel really good about this election.

In an open letter, first written about on Monday by USA Today, 238 people who worked for former President George H.W. Bush, former President George W. Bush, former Arizona Sen. John McCain and Utah Sen. Mitt Romney call on their fellow “moderate Republicans and conservative independents” to join them in backing Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, over Trump and his vice presidential pick, Sen. JD Vance of Ohio.

https://apnews.com/article/kamala-harris-republican-endorsements-1371966c9be8ac4e0e6b3e1e126edbc9

Interesting factoid: George HW Bush is the only sitting VP to be elected POTUS since 1836. I'd forgotten Nixon was sitting VP when he lost to JFK, Hubert Humphrey was beaten badly in 1968, Gore barely lost to Bush II, …

https://apnews.com/article/kamala-harris-incumbent-vice-president-election-defc726ac5a8db8ef0ba9a756fd8eec5

"If I am being honest" ???

I must have missed the bit where you gave an honest appraisal of Trump.
You seem very free in your opinions on Harris.

If you've looked at Trump and you've looked at Harris, and can't tell the difference between them quality wise, that is completely discrediting of any judgments made in your posts about their "qualities".

You seem more bothered by 'hate' for Trump, than the hate that Trump spews.
He is a fascist, a racist, a rapist. He tried to steal the last election.

It is obvious you are just here to defend Trump, and you can't defend Trump, so instead you attack Harris.

We've seen this playbook before and it doesn't get any more convincing.

So I don't have a preference really

I doubt anyone really is going to buy this, given your posting on the matter already and the efforts you've gone to to throw shade on Harris.

If I am being honest

A lot of folk are going to struggle with this too, frankly.

I've gone out of my way to avoid mentioning the man.

Oh, I'm sure that everyone has noticed that as well.

In a discussion forum, I would have expected a little more balance and less people just repeating the same stuff. It's a little odd that there are so few people mentioning anything negative about one of the candidates.

And now we have the crying, because people "in a discussion forum" are challenging your position.

So, if we're to believe you, you cannot in any way say who you'd prefer to see win in November? There's no way at all that you can pick between one of just two candidates, even if both are flawed? It's just impossible for you to weigh up each candidate and say "well, even though they're not exactly the greatest choice, I have to go with X, because…" You're thoroughly incapable of saying that one of the candidates even slightly edges over the other?

I'll actually go one further, the choice is not just limited to Harris and Trump. It's about which party leads the country. So, that means a choice between a MAGA led Republican Party with project 2025 as its central proposition and the Democrats.

And you cannot, "honestly", make a choice between those two?