Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

I believe she would have.

That's how it has played out the several times before when there's a VP in the Democratic primaries.

I don't see any of the other names that were bandied about as being so 'ideal' they'd have overcome that.
She's have had a massive head start by virtue of being VP and the profile that gives her with Democratic base and donors.

But I’m not “in US politics” - I’m on an Irish discussion board 😀

And if I feel Harris has mis-stepped I’ll call it out- and if feel Trump has played a masterstroke (which is very unlikely) I’ll also call that out.

In 2016 I was pretty much convinced that Trump would win - many of my friends and colleagues looked at me as if I had 2 heads.
So I’m well used to abuse. That doesn’t mean I “wanted” Trump to win-a totally different thing altogether.

In 2024, Harris has done well but there are obstacles to still navigate - but I don’t underestimate Trump - hence I’m interested in his strategy, what he says, who he says it to etc People ignored him on Irish commentary sites for a long time in 2016 and wrote him off as a joke- well he may well have been a joke but he won.

Is it “better” to have Harris as president over Trump?
I would imagine so - As an outsider I’d say ask the undecided though because they’re the ones most likely to influence the outcome - why they’re undecided baffles me given the choices so I’d certainly be interested in discussing what’s going on in their minds.

I was asked a question and I answered it but you insist on getting a dig in regardless -you’re badgering me .

Who knows but she would have had to campaign like all the other candidates - 2020 didn’t see her doing well at that - who knows what candidate may have emerged, whether the thinking of the party was to move away from Biden related people or reinforce his style of politics - could a new Bill Clinton have emerged? Who knows and we won’t now anyway.

She's still got a pretty big support base in white dudes tho. This is interesting:

Among voters who were not primed to think about the race or sex of the candidates, Harris and Trump are tied (47 to 48). When the list of issues mentions the sex of the candidates, Harris pulls ahead, 52 to 42. And when the race of the candidates is mentioned, Harris holds a 14-point lead, 53 to 39, a 15-point shift from the baseline condition.

“When voters are thinking about race or sex, Trump’s support just plummets,” said Cassino. “All the time, we hear strategists and pundits saying that Democratic candidates shouldn’t talk about identity, but these results show that making race and sex salient to voters is bad for Trump and boosts Harris.”

The movement in the race priming condition is largely due to changes in support among non-white voters. Fifty-five percent of non-white voters in the unprimed condition say that they’ll support Harris, with 39 percent supporting Trump. But in the race primed condition, Trump’s support among non-white voters drops by 10 points to 29 percent, while Harris’s support rises by 10, from 55 to 65 percent. All told, mentioning the race of the candidates moves Harris’s lead among non-white voters from 16 points (55 to 39) to 36 points (65 to 29).

This size of the effect is supplemented by a shift away from Trump among white voters in the race primed condition. In the unprimed condition, Trump leads Harris among white voters by 11 points, 53 to 42. In the race primed condition, the two are tied, with Harris marginally ahead among white voters, 47 to 44.

https://www.fdu.edu/news/fdu-poll-finds-race-and-gender-push-harris-above-trump-nationally/

This is how Biden did in the 2008 Democratic primaries:

He ultimately dropped out of the race on January 3, 2008, after coming in fifth place and capturing less than 1% of the vote in the Iowa caucus.

So the notion that a bad primary campaign means you are deeply unpopular with the electorate and wouldn't win another primary or a general election doesn't have a leg to stand on.

It's simple.

Harris will be a perfectly fine president/

We all know Trump won't and in reality will be exponentially worse, not just for America but for the world the 2nd time around.

We know this because he keeps telling us.

I have nothing but high regard for Hooters girls. But saying the only thing Harris has going for is she's not Trump is doing her a disservice.

Did anyone on Trumps team even bother to type Vances name into DuckDuckGo before nominating him?

He is absolute weirdo and I don't mean endearing eccentric.

He is a smear shít on the wall lunatic.

The buyers remorse must be savage.

I see DJT Media share prices are continuing to collapse, and have dropped below $20 mark.

A lot of people using those shares and indicative of Trump's elections chances - Truth Social will be effectively worthless if he loses, as as a 2 time defeated candidate you'd have to imagine his chances are gone.

There's a big dilemma for Trump coming up shortly - he'll be allowed sell his shares mid-September. If he dumps them the stock will completely collapse just prior to election, which will hurt a lot of MAGA supporters who invested, and make his business acumen look tarnished again. Doesn't sell and he loses more and more money if stocks go down more. His grift dries up.

https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/djt

I hear he's given up posting to Truth social and has gone back to Twitter, at the same time news has come out that Musk was only able to afford the buyout he got locked into with the help of none other than the Russian oligarchy.

https://regtechtimes.com/oligarch-hidden-complicated-musks-twitter-deal/