The decline of SF?

I have pointed out it was unfortunate but the point is that all sides have commemorations and let them all to it.

Will you ever get a grip ffs.

Shnners love to think their victims will forget them, helps when you telling lies to some teenager to drag them into your cult

unfortunately for you those people have families who still remember them

Meanwhile in 2024,if SF want to be in government,maybe they need to grasp the nettle and have an internal discussion on how best to have some of the more sensitive comemorations discretely when victims immediate families are still alive

The luxury in celebrating awful events that founded this state a 100 years ago is theres no mass media footage of the mahem,theres no living memory of the events and there is something huge to celebrate,a states creation,a work in progress still but a State borne none the less

Thats deluded tbh

Honestly,I've never heard anything so ridiculous and inconsiderate

The NI troubles victims brothers sisters , cousins,mothers and fathers are all alive

A little discretion towards them would not go astray

Come back to me when you think a memorial to the killers of Garda McCabe would be acceptable outside of their graveyard

Imagine having a national celebration for the bombers of a horseguards parade in England or for the Enniskillen bombers

Good luck with getting approval amongst voters for that because thats what you're trying to compare the old IRA Civil war and 1916 celebrations to

Come back to me when you've left SF lala land in that respect and entered the real world

As regards,British army celebrations,those are the celebrations of a foreign country not ours

are we back in 'old ira good / pira bad' land again?

Show me one elected representative in this state that attends celebrations of the murder of people in NI by a foreign army and government,there are none

Ah right, the familiar tactic, set up an argument around something I didn't say to deflect from dealing with what I actually said. But to answer it anyway, here is what the RBL say they are about:

Every year we lead the nation in commemorating and honouring those who have served and sacrificed.

We remember those who lost their lives on active service in all conflicts; from the beginning of the First World War right up to the present day, as well as all those who have served and their families. 

There is zero distinction there and that is why the Poppy stuff is anathema to those who suffered at the hands of the British soldiers on 'active service'. How do you think, to give just one example, the mother or family of one of the nearly 40 children killed with impunity by a British soldier feels when she or they see the Taoiseach lay a wreath of poppies in honour of those who killed their child? I could go on.

Do not deliberately misrepresent me by claiming I don't know what constitutes my country

You do not have that right

Don't make comments like you did so. You ignored that the British Army are celebrated here in Ireland.

What is 'discretion'?
As I said earlier, for years these commemorations passed off without anyone paying a blind bit of attention to them. If you take the blinkers off you can see why they are now the subject of outrage.

And again, you would want to get used to being outraged because already there is a generation doing what generations did here, willfully forgetting that what they have was achieved through just as brutal and horrific violence as what was achieved in the north. Ditto everywhere else in the world where there was a conflict/war/

There isn't a single question mark in your last post, just proclamations, from what I can see.

You DIDN'T ask any questions in your post, you just vented.

I asked you several questions and instead of dealing with the points made you made up something I said to answer. Gimme a break!

Quite simply, you 'demand' of SF what you won't demand of all the others who celebrate murder and killing and violence carried out here.
Just as Unionism is finding out it doesn't have a veto any longer, you too have to deal with the fact you are in no position to dictate or veto who and what gets commemorated. Realities.

And your position on the commemoration of native Irish members of the Royal Irish Constabulary is......?

Exactly the same as it would be if SF proposed state commemorations for the members of the IRA…against it. As said, MLMD and others in SF have accepted there would need to be sensitivity around such things in a UI. I agree with them. Charlie Flanagan and Varadkar found out the hard way that there needs to be sensitivity in such things.

Here's how you ask a question. This is just one you ignored.

 How do you think, to give just one example, the mother or family of one of the nearly 40 children killed with impunity by a British soldier feels when she or they see the Taoiseach lay a wreath of poppies in honour of those who killed their child?

Here's 3 more, ignored.

Why are you not pressurising all those who used violence here to desist commemorating?

Surely a democrat is not just cherrypicking and engaging in selective outrage?
Can nationalists ask that all public eulogy and commemoration of the BA and the various disgraced security forces be hidden away?

Like dictating who can commemorate and who can't you are trying again to dictate here. You get asked a question and you just deflect or just make something up and go from there.

If you want to 'ask' a question do it properly.

What the hell did I 'dictate' to you?

I told you that you would have to accept that you don't get get to dictate who or what gets commemorated. Look around you in the real world, people are commemorating and not just the evil Shinners.
You can't defend your - the British are not commemorating in my country - faux pas, so you try to deflect from it with more faux outrage about me dictating.

Here is what you said:

As regards,British army celebrations,those are the celebrations of a foreign country not ours

They aren't the celebrations of a 'foreign' country, the British army are celebrated here in Ireland when Leo and others wear their poppy or lay wreaths or in memorials in Belfast or elsewhere. Fact.

But of course the myopically selective wouldn't see it that way.