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Marvel Cinematic Universe general stuff

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  • #4352
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,141 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    If they had eyes on Tom cruise, they should have tapped him for doom. Maybe they tried tbf. He'd have been an excellent doom imo, look at him menacing in Collateral



  • #4353
    pixelburp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    My question would be though, what's in it for Tom Cruise? The man's already pretty wealthy so would hardly need the cash; you don't underwrite your own stunt-work (IIRC) unless you got serious bank yourself - or via your Scientology cult.

    And given the direction he has gone with his output, while he has never said it out-loud you'd wanna think the MCU films & what they represent are the furthest thing from the kind of movies he has been making. I've never liked Cruise but his obvious desire to become the saviour of cinema puts him at odds with how the Marvel films have set themselves up.



  • #4354
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,048 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah if they cast Tom Cruise as either a variant of Iron Man or as Doctor Doom, never mind how money RDJ & the Russos are getting paid, all the budget for the films would go into making a real Iron Man suit for Tom Cruise or maybe even scientific research to find a way for Cruise to actually be able to fly.

    Either that or instead of flying, Iron Man would just run everywhere.



  • #4355
    p to the e
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭p to the e


    I think Mads Mikelsen would have been an excellent Doom.



  • #4356
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    If Disney/Marvel really want to throw away money at casting I'd love to see them try and land Daniel Day Lewis for a role and I'd really love to see him not being serious and come out of retirement just to have fun doing a Superhero film.



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  • #4357
    pixelburp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    You laugh now, but it'd be a minor geopolitcal disaster when Dr. Doom, formerly Daniel-Day Lewis, takes over Latveria in a bloody coup armed with super-science, all during the actor's preperations.



  • #4358
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,241 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    It'd be impossible to enjoy Daniel Day Lewis coming out of retirement to do a Marvel movie as it would be so profoundly depressing seeing Daniel Day Lewis coming out of retirement to do a f***ing Marvel movie.



  • #4359
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,048 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I'd say even if retirement wasn't an issue, the closest Daniel Day-Lewis would ever want to get to the Marvel money would be driving the truck of money to RDJ's house as method acting prep for his upcoming role as a truck driver.



  • #4360
    The White Wolf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,696 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122455721#Comment_122455721

    That's the one thing that always had me doubt Cruise would do Marvel, or DC for that matter because I heard him floated as a potential Hal Jordan. Any films he does now he's basically running the show, so there's no way he'd be able to play ball with Feige.

    The last film he did that could compare to this was The Mummy, and it didn't work out well.



  • #4361
    pixelburp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122456941#Comment_122456941

    Oh absolutely: whatever Cruise is gonna work on he's always gonna require a large degree of autonomy; he and McQuarrie seem to gel well together in that respect, they obviously know how to compliment each other without clashing. Ditto Joseph Kosinski of course, who had already worked with Cruise before both of them made Top Gun: Maverick. While the MCU is, by design, a franchise that forbids any kind of creative control that isn't coming from Kevin Feige.

    That said, Cruise has now hit 60 and you gotta presume eventually even personal fortune can't underwrite stunts if his body's no longer capable of withstanding the punishment; so the question will be if he just retires from acting, or move into more sedate pay-cheque work - though even then, I still wouldn't see what the MCU would offer.



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  • #4362
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    According to The InSneider, Downey will be paid $50 million per film to show up as Doom, with those figures guaranteed to increase — perhaps to as much as $100 million — based on how "Doomsday" and "Secret Wars" perform at the box office (it's not clear if Downey will also get an extra paycheck for a rumored appearance he'll make at the end of "The Fantastic Four: First Steps" to introduce the character).



  • #4363
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Do we think we might finally get a Gambit film with Tatum, given how well he was received in D&W

    Reynolds seems to be pushing for more Gambit and also a Logan style Blade send off film



  • #4364
    Cotts72
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    I liked the fact that Tatum finally got to pay the role but wasn't hugely impressed with the accent... Would love to see marvel cast a french speaking actor instead



  • #4365
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,141 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    I do wonder if the accent was played up specifically for the jokes. I know there were jokes around it, but in a world where Tatum does a proper Gambit movie I would assume the accent would be cleaned up a bit. I can't imagine he has been trying to launch that movie for decades and that is the best accent he could do. But maybe that accent is why!



  • #4366
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,048 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122482456#Comment_122482456

    His accent was purposefully overdone. Even if the original Gambit movie had gone ahead, he wouldn't have talked like that. Maybe just a slight Cajun twang on his accent.

    I doubt they'll ever go ahead with the Gambit movie at this stage though, regardless of how well received Tatum was for D&W. It was a fun thing, but given Marvel's new commitment to focusing more on quality over quantity, there's no room for a solo Gambit movie. Maybe they'll throw him into Secret Wars, but that'll probably be the most they'd do.



  • #4367
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,993 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I thought it was pretty accurate to the guy(s) who played him in the 90s cartoon, which is clearly who he is meant to be.

    This too shall pass.



  • #4368
    Brief_Lives
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,782 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122482456#Comment_122482456

    definitely on purpose, the minions joke was one of the best in the film because of it.

    his action sequences were top notch..

    need a Gambit movie, stat.



  • #4369
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,280 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Yeah Tatum can do the proper Gambit cajun accent but overegged it on purpose.



  • #4370
    Xofpod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭Xofpod


    Enjoyed the Deadpool & Wolverine movie. Fluff but fun. Can't see it having any impact on the canon/narrative direction of the MCU though, not that that should have been its purpose. Also don't see any way that they can integrate the character into the main arc, tonally, plotwise, or any other way. I presume the box-office returns will guarantee more adventures in his own meta, pocket universe.



  • #4371
    ancapailldorcha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122505581#Comment_122505581

    I thoroughly enjoyed it but, weeks later, it makes me feel more than Marvel are just out of ideas. It was far too reliant on cameos, fun as they were. Dragging the nearly 60-years old Hugh Jackman out to play Logan again felt a bit desperate once the sheen wore off.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • #4372
    Loughc
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,117 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122505581#Comment_122505581

    What really irked me was the marketing and Kevin feige keep implying that deadpool was going to have a massive knock on effect to the MCU as a whole.

    He was quoted as saying if endgame was a 10 on how much it affected the MCU then Deadpool & Wolverine is a 8.

    Like it didn’t impact the MCU at all. It was very much a stand alone thing.

    The lifeboat has set sail



  • #4373
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,280 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122505581#Comment_122505581

    Tbf Deadpool has the same issue when it comes to comic crossover events or even when he featured is in X-Force/Wolverine/X-Men/Uncanny Avengers issues. Its just toned down dramatically.



  • #4374
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,141 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122505738#Comment_122505738

    that is my feeling having seen the movie too - everything is the same as it was.

    BUT

    We don't know what is coming.

    If X23 or Gambit, for example, were to get Marvel movies and be brought into the main time line, would that be the impact he is talking about?



  • #4375
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,812 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122505772#Comment_122505772

    I would love if Deadpool was part of say an Avengers movie that all his forth wall breaking stuff would be seen from the perspective of everyone else.

    Like people ar observing him making funny 4th wall breaking quips and not knowing what is happening.

    Then on flip side you can release online after the film what the quips were.



  • #4376
    Brief_Lives
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,782 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    I just found this X-Men Podcast, called Cerebro.

    Just listening to episode 2. It's good.

    It concentrates on a different mutant per pod. There is always a guest on it, that seems (so far ) to be very knowledgable.

    https://www.connorgoldsmith.com/cerebro



  • #4377
    EoinMcLovin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,784 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    James Spader Returning as Ultron for WandaVision Sequel Series on Disney+

    https://tvline.com/casting-news/james-spader-ultron-wandavision-sequel-disney-plus-1235322588/


  • #4378
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,827 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Interest piqued!



  • #4379
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,280 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    I thought Ultron was fantastic so provided it isn't just for another dick joke, thats definitely interesting.



  • #4380
    The White Wolf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,696 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    I thought they needed a good hook for that Vision show so that's a major get.

    My memory is hazy in how they did it in Age of Ultron, but I recall thinking it was flimsy and that he'd inevitably return.



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  • #4381
    Full_Circle_81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Full_Circle_81


    I enjoyed the character popping up in the What If series, but don't think it was Spader voicing him for that. Spader is usually worth a watch (or listen in this case).



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