Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

The bookies have been wrong only twice in 150 years. Not a bad record. The polls were actually quite reflective with Hillary (she did win the overall vote)

Polls and bookies are not infallible, but they do give us an indication. For example, Harris is polling on average around 3 or 4 or 5 points ahead of Trump at the moment in nationwide polls (multiple polls). That obviously doesn't mean she would automatically win if the election were tomorrow. On the contrary the US election relies on battleground states, but it's an overall indication on a national level.

For the battleground states, at the moment it's very tight. Harris has closed the gap on Trump.

So if the election were tomorrow it looks like on paper, Trump might take it, but there are very tight toss-ups and it would depend on foot-fall and mobilization.

Again, for the 100th time in this thread, we can't rely on aggregated polls entirely - and in the same vein we absolutely cannot discount them.

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The missing bag of white powder from the WH has been found, panic over

I've literally never come across the word "woke" in real life unless it's someone referring to it ironically. There's been transgender people around forever.

The only thing that's changed is that some smart people have manufactured it into some sort of culture war via social media - and it works.

Now we have almost half of all voting US adults supporting a reality TV host who's also a rapist/felon/fraudster. Which when you think about it, was the only way it could have worked.

Trump really has some insane tax proposals.

Reduce corporation tax to 15%!

At a time of inflation, economic growth and job growth… he wants to "spur the economy".

See how easy it is to label things as 'insane' without any foundation.

Well you know, Trump did say he owes all his big financial backers, is that the quid pro quo?

Insulting people you supposedly have on ignore ..... Lol

Are we pretending that Trump as policies again? Well, in fairness that's the go-to tactic by "centrists" to play-act like Donnie is somehow a serious political player, instead of what we all know he is (including his supporters if they ever learned to be honest.)

Donnie might "support" a tax position from GOP folk? Donnie doesn't give a flying feck what tax rates are being considered or debated about. Donnie only cares about his own damned well-being. It's still shocking how much this needs to be repeated to people who I assume possess functioning senses, but this man has been shown time and again since the 80's to only give a damn about himself. And he keeps doing it.

Shall we stop waisting time by pretending that Donnie is somehow equiped to a act as a politician? We both know his appeal to many a "centrist" on here is not down to tax proposals or laws or any of the usual grown-up stuff that comes with Government work. You like him because he is a vile sh*tstirrer. You like him because he has no filter and will say the worst things imaginable and couldn't care less about the damage he can do to a public office or the state it serves. You like him because the people you hate, the normal folk who care about others, are upset by him.

Let's stop pretending that's down to anything grown-up….like taxes.

what’s insane about her policy?

Trump tried his policy already and it didn’t grow the economy, he promised 4,5,6 percent GDP growth. He couldn’t manage 3. He did worse than Obama who pulled us out of the banking and housing collapse

Literal insanity would be trying Trump policies again and expecting a new result

I have to go through that daily at work already !!

In all my time here I've never seen any politican on here generate so many posters who have to constantly rereg. Supporters reveal a lot about a candidate.

People support whomever they have the most in common with which reveals a lot about them.

I'm trying to stick to the general theme of MAGA-ish-ness when discussing them, but this phenominom just smacks of the state of MAGAworld and those who live within it.

I'm convinced that most of them know that their positions are built on poorly assembled fiction, or even upon the larger fiction that Donald Trump can be anything useful to the world. They know this, and it burns them up when they see the rest of society discuss the alterntives. It burns them up that the rest of society might be happy that an alternative to this decripit loser of a man might come forward and be President instead of him. Doesn't matter if it were Biden, or Harris, or frankly anyone…their anger would be the same.

So they lash out. They call us a LGBTQLMNOPRST Marxist Pink-haired echo-chamber, when my gut feeling is that the anti-Trump cohort on this site is made up a of a wide spectrum of views. The acceptance of reality is the default position for most, which is why the far-right are in the minority. They lash out angrily because they are alone in this, and have little left than to re-reg, take our rejection of their worldview personally, and use a inordinate amount of energy to convince themselves (and any follow traveller they hope to encounter) that they are somehow not wrong…

Unfortunatly, no matter how hard you wish or scream or chant the name of your beloved God-King…you can't change reality. And so this circus continues…