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Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,803 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Trump coming out with some barmy stuff at his rally this evening. Says he is 'far better looking than Kamala Harris' and that Joe Biden hates her (for the way he was obliged to step down).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    some republicans would probably celebrate and see such an event as punishment for them liberals and proof that end of days has arrived



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭advisemerite


    VP Kamala, has been criticised heavily for her economic policy proposal by many in the media who lean towards the Democrats, even The Washington Post has criticised her and they are/were supporters of her. The cracks are not only showing, they are starting to get big 😉, imagine the scenario after her first sit down interview/debate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,181 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Is that not the paper owned by Bezos who may be annoyed if an economic proposal does not help billionaires?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,867 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


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    12 years of same old tired shite….no new material



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Apart from the fact you should really supply links to back up your "many in the media" point, it would also appear that you miss the point that criticism by media that lean in your direction is an entirely, normal, functioning part of modern democracy.

    What would not be normal, but indeed be a bit "weird" would be to never be challenged by media that leans in your direction. In fear of not getting interviews, or being castigated publicly.

    We all should have the freedom to disagree. As much as Trump goes on about freedom, who in his orbit has that freedom?

    Interesting, (long!) read here about the effect of Trumps attacks on members of his own party.

    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-election-trump-purge



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Bezos owns Whole Foods so I guess its obvious that wacky price controls would hurt his business not to mention destroy america which would be fun in experimental terms to see being played out lol , maybe it is better that Harris keeps her mouth shut

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,787 ✭✭✭Rawr


    We’re onto “VP Kamala” now? It’s technically true, she is “VP” but I’m fascinated with the hangups the MAGAs have something so simple as her name. “Kamala”, “Harris”, “the Dem’s Presidential nominee”, all pretty normal stuff for most people. But we have to go into the weird Trumpism of somehow twisting a person’s name…and alas for them it isn’t really working this time.

    You’d have to wonder what would happen in MAGAworld if her name changed to: Kamala Harris, 47th President of the United States.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    I think uncontrolled corporate greed is in the process of destroying America.

    How else do you explain record profits, record buybacks and record bonuses being paid out while normal people can't afford rent?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Pretty certain that she'll be referred to as "Fake 47" or some such.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,465 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    This so called theory is a Fox and Friends talking point against Harris. For example, Harris has held press conferences when she held 2 terms as San Francisco’s DA, as well as when she held 2 terms as California’s Attorney General. Press conferences were a part of her jobs back then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    lost me Im not american , I gather she made waves pumping price controls of which Im aware, Bezos would be conflicted as he owns both a large supermarket chain and the WP and clearly could see problems with this , any credible economist knows price controls lead to failure and shortages

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,521 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    No, she isn't pumping price controls, although that is how it is framed to dupe those not paying close enough attention.
    Can you find us some credible economists that are classifying this as price controls?
    And I don't mean MAGA stooges.

    This is a much more specific measure… "closer to a consumer protection measure"

    Under Harris’ proposal, the government wouldn’t specify prices, but the Federal Trade Commission could investigate price spikes. “The proposal is really about protecting consumers from unscrupulous corporate actors that are trying to just rip the consumer off because they know they can,” she said.

    https://apnews.com/article/kamala-harris-price-gouging-ban-inflation-65dc8844bb41159d76886f752b6cab28

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Ill wait for her full sit down interview on her proposals and then catch the summary and reaction , that would make me more informed than 95% of US voters or she should come out and condemn price controls as Socialism which she isnt for if that is the case

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Instead of addressing the post, you've just gone on a rant. Exploiting consumers buying their groceries by spiking prices. Eg Kroger in the US are currently considering bringing in dynamic pricing for groceries which means one customer will end up paying a different price than another for the exact same shopping. But your concern is "socialism".

    https://progressivegrocer.com/senators-probe-kroger-about-dynamic-pricing



  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Frankly all markets eventually collapse into some form of price fixing or supports, the only difference here is that it's not earmarked for large corporations.

    Just look at the criminal gouging that Spervalue, Dunnes and Centra indulged in until Aldi and Lidl came along. Retailers will charge what they think their customers will tolerate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Until we meet headlines such as, "Record profits recorded by *** company" with contempt and disgust, instead of heralding it as something to strive for, there'll be no ease in the cost the living crisis.

    They have record profits, because they are charging too much.

    This should not be hard to understand.



  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    All markets tend towards Monopolies, they then start gouging. Markets in of themselves are not and never have been self regulating to achieve the best possible outcomes. It's a myth.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,570 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Surely his kids should be making an intervention and showing him some pamphlets.

    Florida has some excellent elder care homes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    In California they either restricted price rises or profits of insurance companies, end result a lot of Insurance companies just left and caused havoc because claims were higher than premiums they could charge. Surely your example shows the market does work unless the government has planning inefficiencies and or regulation capture occurs , what wont work is creating supermarket price control but it maybe popular with the economic illiterate

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,521 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Whats being proposed isnt price controls. This has already been explainex on the thread.

    Under Harris’ proposal, the government wouldn’t specify prices, but the Federal Trade Commission could investigate price spikes.

    Continuing to describe it as price controls is economic illiteracy and arguing against a fabricated strawman.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,010 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I worked at Dunnes when Aldi arrived in town, and their reaction was honestly something akin to panic. They even brought in a range of items called "Dunnes Betta Valdi"(which at the time felt perilously close to copyright infringement) which were cheaper than cheap. I remember one woman bringing back a box of corn flakes from the Betta Valdi range which she said she couldn't eat, so she put them out for the birds and the birds wouldn't eat them either.

    Aldi/Lidl's model works by selling quality items at low prices with a low margin thanks to economies of scale. Dunnes answer was to sell really cheap items that were cheap for a reason - no-one wanted to buy them in the first place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Water John




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Thats good though, better than some government wonk trying to get headlines by coming out with a regulation price for a bunch of items , you will end up with a bunch of intended-unintended consequences

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    But the overall outcome has been a general downward pressure on prices.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,085 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Yeah - but in fairness to Dunne’s stores - Aldi and Lidl are continent wide operations so they have huge heft behind them to develop own brand quality products.

    Dunne’s are Irish based and unlikely to expand any time soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    But once again, this relates to investigating outlier scenarios where prices increase drastically. It's basically having a consumer watchdog.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    im old enough to remember that supermarkets were limited in size "by the government" here, same as all the taxi shortages and extreme values of ""taxi plates" , the default is that price control is covering up for some other inefficiency

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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