Deposit return scheme (recycling) - Part 2

Seriously, you don't have to shill for this nonsense every day. You don't have anything to gain from it.

They also changed the law 'recently' that gift vouchers (I know these are not they) must be valid at least 5 years - there is no way they'd sign off for the DRS scheme with 45 days validity.

If this is correct re LIDL complain to Re-Turn themselves.

Sharp practice at least…

…completely agree, assumptions have been made in implementing this scheme in regards consumers resources, its assumed most people have their own transport, and have the ability to carry their waste to deposit machines, this really isnt a way of bringing people along to improve our environmental issues

Ciaran Foley has said in various interviews on the radio that there is no limit on the vouchers. If this is true then lidl are abusing the system.

Edit: from the aldi website:

I'd be going straight to Lidl head office about it tbh, they're the ones implementing their own policy.

Your inability to return an item with a deposit still does not make it a price increase.

OK, it makes it a cost increase for me.

If they are using the unredeemed deposits to fund core operations it is a different situation - that does not apply to gas canisters. Dublin Bus paid much of the money out to community programmes, so it was in effect an involuntary charitable donation.

Fact: DRS process isn't accessible so deposit can't be retrieved.

Impact: Effective price (cost?) increase for those people when buying such items, as the DRS process isn't accessible for them.

If you want to come up with a different phrasing of it's impact, go ahead. But I totally reject claims it is silliness or hyperbole.

The paper that the vouchers are on won't last too long so spend or transfer to a gift card would be my suggestion. I have over 120 on an Aldi gift card which will be used for Christmas shopping.

The system is a joke, but this is how I am making the best of it.

The voice of reason at last.

I can't honestly say it was worth the wait. No offence BM.

There you have it.

Glad somebody on this thread can do basic maths, Bog master.

Remember that even if you return the bottle, the price increase for the contents still holds. The bottle cost 15c.

Pre DRS, the product price is 1 euro.

Therefore, the water is 85c and the bottle 15c.

Post DRS, you pay 1.15 for the product.

Keep the bottle and you've a price increase for the product of 15c.

Return the bottle and you've a price increase of 15c on the water, which is no longer 85c & now costs a euro.

The price increase applies in both cirumstances and is unavoidable.

Nice strawman argument :)

understandable opinion, and probably not far wrong, but i do think theres a lot of disconnection occurring within our political system, i wouldnt say its incompetence, but more so that disconnection, you can clearly see some of the flawed assumptions made, and the fact nobody actually wants to admit, the only way to truly address our waste issues is the reduce consumption as a whole, but no political entity would ever dare exercise this truth as it would be clear political suicide….

…modern political ideologies believe that market based entities, those that create our goods and services should be largely exempted from any requirement to preserve our environment, and this critical need is truly the responsibility of the consumer, the individual, hence why such policies are implemented, thus protecting the needs of the creators of our goods and services, and ultimately protecting their abilities to profit…..

…its clearly never going to work, and if we maintain this trajectory, we ll clearly be completely fcuked environmentally…..