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Olympic Games Paris 2024 - AH Thread [Thread banned posters listed in first post.]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭Citizenpain


    agree - this is the account I read

    But Kerr said he had no second thoughts. “And I’m pretty sure Shelby was in the same mindset, because we just looked at each other,” he said. “And it was pretty simple. We both just nodded and off we went.”

    Well, McEwen was a bit more willing to consider alternatives, he admitted afterward. “At some point, I kind of got fatigued,” he said with a smile. “I might have shared it with him. But I agreed to it and it was all good.” He added, “I wasn’t gonna go back and forth and argue with them or talk to him. He just wanted to jump off and I was all in for it.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,154 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Genuinely, if ireland wanted to maximise medal return it should focus on a sport like fencing.

    It is a surprisingly high medal yielding sport with I think 12 Olympic competitions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,792 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    FFS, wind your neck in. Best medal haul ever and you're calling Irish athletes Brits. What misery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,792 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    It has not been confirmed that boxing will not be at LA28.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,675 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Could be cool. Fencing.

    The boxing thing was a bit of a farce in 2024.

    You had the Uzbekistan super heavyweight guy going back to amateur to do the Olympics.

    He was twice the size of the Spanish guy he was fighting in the final.

    The Spanish guy was lucky to get out of there alive.

    Then we had the gender thing as well which was totally unfair to women fighters.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    The biggest issue that has been sorted is that Raygun and mates won't be there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    If it’s about medals then I would target women’s cycling: low technique sport that anyone can do to an elite level once you can generate high wattage with leg power. The winner of the women’s road race couldn’t ride a bike 9 years ago. Funnel strong stamina female athletes into cycling would be one idea. Not having a velodrome will probably make it more difficult. 2027 seems a very long target date to have one built.

    But we should be doing more than just targeting medals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,792 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Yes that was decided before her "performance" and the body behind the "sport" are hoping to have it in Brisbane 32.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    I thought the coverage for major Irish athletes was very good if you were just tuning in for specific big events where they had actual production values and logical times for breaks. But if you were just watching a random event in the afternoon or evening the coverage was destroyed by the poorly timed ads, length of the ad breaks and unnecessary cuts back to the studio, often just for the formality of a presenter to sign off and show an outro and for the next presenters intro in the exact same studio.

    It was actually impossible to get immersed in most events with the frequent cuts and then not properly catching the viewer up when they return because they don't have director control. It's live sport you can't just show it in 12 minute chunks with 3 minute breaks on either side and expect it to make sense.

    The choice of which sports to show was also bizarre. I don't know how many times I knew there was basketball or soccer on and hoped to see it live but RTE were showing something like diving or canoe slalom.

    The commentators and panelists were mostly good but it felt like the producers were being driven by AI with no idea what the audience wanted or how to correctly present it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,154 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    That bastion of honesty and morality, the IOC has given the national boxing federations a year to associate with a new international body "World Boxing" and leave IBA in order to be reinstated at the Olympics.

    Remains to be seen what happens.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,058 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    I was at the home-coming for the first half, and then caught the second half on TV, so I may have missed something, but was there any reference to Adeleke at any stage? I didn't hear her being mentioned. I'm not that surprised if she wasn't there (flew back to the US maybe?), just seems odd if there was no mention at all - Paul O'Donovan got a call-out or two, and he wasn't there either

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Let's hope not. Olympics isn't a place for "trendy" past times.

    I'd scrap that insta friendly Skateboarding too. Young kids bouncing about concrete getting smashed up and being encouraged to carry on. Then the hip dad throwing his shapes in the "mens" version.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,829 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    We probably should be looking more towards Brisbane in 2032 to focus on results. We may have take step back to take two forward.

    We need to look at this as long term benefit and look at what it does to country as whole. Yes we ain't going solve the obesity crisis as needs be looked at serperate, but good habits will yield better results anyway.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭Tippman24


    Talking about dieting, I was in Dublin City Centre last May and in Cork in July. I found it very difficult to find a place to get an old type dinneri.e. .eat, veg and spuds

    Looked at menu in umptren places and all i could see was burger and chips in umpteen variations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,537 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It takes a lot longer than 4 years to "focus" on something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    LOL, Veg & Spuds. I could picture it now in your Tipp accent asking for a plate of Cabbage and new potatoes in some hipster cafe in Dublin City Centre

    😂

    No disrepect or anything chief, i'm fond of it myself the occasional Sunday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,017 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    I won two golds for the discus in Secondary School sports days. Actually, I think 2028 will be the 40th anniversary of my second gold, so maybe I should be training to see in I can bring back the glory!! 💿️ 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Basketball and soccer are on most of the year if you want to watch them.

    The vast majority of people during the Olympics enjoy watching sports they normally wouldn't watch most of the year.

    Post edited by Jack Daw on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    I’m a bit bereft today without the Olympics. Hopefully RTE will give more coverage to athletics over the next few years with the improved performance of our athletes. Back in the 90s they broadcast the diamond series or wherever it was called then. I think there would be an audience for that again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭Sigma101


    What would be the point though? Maximum medals for a sport that almost nobody is interested in and that has no tradition in Ireland. If winning medals is for the public good then it's better to have them spread across sports that people might actually play.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,512 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Aye, it's not like we're even competing for bragging rights at the very top of the medals table, or there's major prize money for winning golds that can be re-invested (e.g. like winning premier league).

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Morris Garren


    The single biggest stumbling block to greater Olympic success in Ireland is undoubtedly the existence of the GAA. That's not going away any time soon. Browbeating young boys and girls into football, hurling and camoige and banning them from other playing sports, even banning them from switching from their club, (I've seen this happen umpteen times over the years) only narrows the pool of potential sporting talent. Granted that there are probably plenty lads from say, Kilkenny, for example for whom winning the 'All-Ireland' is the pinnacle of their sheltered lives, but how many talented athletes are by-passed and neglected along the way? We must therefore accept that as long as this remains a reality-- and also as long as RTE keeps giving Olympic sport coverage to people like Marty Morrissey, Joanne Cantwell and Jacqui Hurley-- the old GAA 'national sport' palaver will continue. Hurling aficionados are the worst of all to listen to as they never stop shouting that it's the 'greatest game on earth.' Well how come the overwhelming number of countries neither play it, nor have even heard of it? Big fish small pond syndrome



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,017 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Tell us what you really think Morris.

    I hate the GAA as much as the next sane person, but i'm not sure the GAA clubs are banging people doors down and forcing people to sign. It's engrained in most communities across the country.

    We don't have a lot of other facilities to entice people in to. There is a GAA pitch in every parish across the country.

    Hurling, greatest game on earth? Don't start me on that bollox. Stick fighting is all it is



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Ceepo


    Not saying we shouldn't be looking at ’32, but we as a nation have being saying the same thing after every Olympics.

    Surely the plans for 28 have been put in pace years ago?

    Lots of talk again yesterday and today about future investment etc and of course it's to be welcomed, but it's more or less the same conversation after every Olympics.

    Its great to hear the budget is increasing, and more money for capital projects. But there's a lot more to success than money.

    Aot of people on this thread have spoken about things that should be happening at grassroots, and id agree. The biggest issue that has been spoken about in my circle, is the lack of volunteer's. Without volunteer's willing to help out at underage levels, coach's at training sessions are only proxy babysitters. I know some sports have a reasonable good coach education program (certainly not without it flaws), but all these programs are pretty useless if people aren't willing to help out. It might seem the be only a small thing, but it's were grassroots start.

    A few posters have also pointed out that a better talent ID system should be put in placee.and some NGB are very proactive it putting these in place. And yes, on the face of it talent ID is a great thing. But again it's not without its drawbacks. It can place a lot of pressure on young individuals to live a lifestyle so they can meet the expectations placed on them. It also needs to be remembered that early specializing usually has more chances of young people leaving the sport than it does of producing champions.

    Another thing to point out ,is that Al lot of work DOES actually happen behind the scenes. I was involved as a coach for a few years with a national junior academy, which was a feed to the high performance squad. Unfortunately this more or less fell away after a new CEO came in.

    TLTR, loads being done, loads could be done better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Yes, VIRGIN have been showing them all year. EUROSPORT also shows them along with BBC (IPLAYER a lot of times)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭Hold My Hand


    I’d love an Olympics for oldies. I’d watch that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭thebronze14


    Tbf I have little interest in professional sports like that that are shown year round anyway. It's the random ones I want to see that we never get to see!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,675 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Eamon Coughlin would still come fourth in that one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,425 ✭✭✭randd1


    Or…

    Irish people being proud of native Irish sports that are rooted in their community, and want to play them and love watching them?

    We could play basketball somewhere in the county, or we could train or play hurling matches with all our pals just down the road.

    We could try gymnastics at a cost of €300-€500 a year, if there was more than one gymnasium within 30 miles, or we could play gaelic football by picking up a ball.

    Or…

    Gaelic games also capture the imagination of people but does so all year round, and not just once for a fortnight every four years, so people pursue it.

    Just maybe.

    Personally, I'd say the biggest stumbling block for sustained Olympic success is a total lack of facilities overall, lack of engagement with local communities, disorganisation between various clubs within sports, complete lack of engagement in primary schools sowing the seeds for future interest, poor promotion outside the few weeks of the Olympic games, and a sneery attitude towards sports like gaelic games instead of linking up with them, like the way the US athletics does with their native sports, to encourage those that don't reach the highest level into athletics to avail of their natural fitness and body of fitness already developed.

    But that would be just me.



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