Hipster Cafes and Bakeries

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Comparing cafe to supermarket is ridiculous. I normally wouldn't complain about prices but I got my eye brow raised there last week.

I went to Il Valentino Cafe in Grand Canal Dock. Got 1 tea, 1 cappuchino with oat milk and 2 very small (barbie sized) pastries. €17.50. Note the tea wasn't one of those fancy loose leaf in the pot things, it was a bag with hot water in a take away cup. then there's self service milk and sugar, the milk jug was frankly disgusting so went without. Never again, the small pastries were nice though, coffee was ok and tea was muck.

I think tea has to be the highest mark up of all, 2c hot water, 2c tea bag, a bit of rotten milk that's been left out and gone crusty, and boom €4 profit.

Machine coffee is another wild mark up, almost the same cost as barista coffee with a fraction of the overheads.

Machine coffee shouldn't be as expensive as it is. Wouldn't be surprised if an informal machine coffee pricing cartel is a thing.

"sounds like you've been swindled.

2 nurses salaries = approx 90k. Meaning they can get a mortgage for 360k, meaning they would have to come up with roughly 120k themselves. Over 3 years they'd have to save 40k between them on an 80k salary (gross, approx 50k net). A mathematical impossibility even if you assume they do not eat or sleep, you're saying they survived on 5k a year each, just enough for them to rent a bedroom in someone's house"

Check around - literally all the Indian nurses buy houses. The 2 I'm talking about rented a room together in a house provided by the nursing home they worked for when they first arrived. They cooked communally with the other housemates - veggie stuff like Dahl. They literally don't and didn't go anywhere that costs money. No cinema, drinks or meals out etc. Social life happens with other groups of Indians- communal cooking parties etc. The night manager where I work is in Ireland 10 years and with spouse, they have 2 houses, one rented to other Indians. When they first buy a house they rent rooms to other Indians and save every penny and use that to buy another. I'm telling you I work with these people and they fascinate me. None I've met so far ever really wanted to be nurses, it's totally strategic, to get abroad, buy a house and get their children university education. It's always about the next generation. I get on with this guy at work and pick his brains about how to live cheap. They have every trick in the book. They will rule us.

With restaurants dropping their prices, it was now possible to get a meal for as little as €8 (£6.80, $8.70) in the Latin Quarter

The 120k is easily made up with a combination of the first home scheme and help to buy. No need to save that much money. You'd only need 20k to add to the 30k HTB and then another 10k for the various fees.

Yes, the Indian 2nd-3rd generations will change, as in the UK. I agree it's not the way we'd live but it doesn't bother the current generation. They are ambitious. And every one of them I've come in contact with has a disdain for the UK as its too "crowded " - and all recommending friends/family come here.

I know this is a long way off bakery prices. But we really do waste money in Ireland.

https://bouillonlesite.com/bouillon-republique

Two sister restaurants, they have a similar business model as Chartier.

See menu below.

Main courses from 8.90 to 13.90 in central Paris.