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Hipster Cafes and Bakeries

Patsy167

€4.50 for a pain au chocolat and €3.80 for a latte. €6 for a small square of sourdough focaccia bread. I'm all for supporting local businesses but these hipster cafes and bakeries are taking us for fools. There's a Lidl 100 yards down the road where you could fill your basket in their bakery for the same price.

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Strumms

newish hipster cafe 5 mins up the road.

Omelette… ( 3 fillings but no chips included ) €12.95.

Medium Cappuccino €4.20

total : 17.15

Basic enough furnishings / comfort and cramped space…. Total hipster vibe with the pointless fake plastic leaves and plastic branches hanging everywhere…. and 17.15 for an omelette and a cappuccino……. 😵‍💫

This place is a small cramped unit situated in a supermarket car park, if you are paying a bit extra for comfort / service…maybe….. But you wernt.

If you are going to charge 12.95 for an omelette, throw a few chips on the plate.

One very weird thing….some dishes, came with chips, yet, chips weren’t even an option to order as a side. I’ve just pulled up the menu now to see was I imagining it and… no 😵‍💫 weird place !

Citizen Six

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122406328#Comment_122406328

Name of the place?

washiskin

A tale of 2 club sandwiches.

Cutesy cafe on the Boyne Valley route - €11.95 - anaemic toasted bread, minimal fillings, less than half a handful of crisps on the side.

Pub in the next town over - €12.95 - well filled and toasted with fries, side salad and coleslaw.

I don't normally like to nark about independent eateries, but I won't be stopping for food in the first place, maybe coffee and cake but that's it.

cgcsb

Comparing cafe to supermarket is ridiculous. I normally wouldn't complain about prices but I got my eye brow raised there last week.

I went to Il Valentino Cafe in Grand Canal Dock. Got 1 tea, 1 cappuchino with oat milk and 2 very small (barbie sized) pastries. €17.50. Note the tea wasn't one of those fancy loose leaf in the pot things, it was a bag with hot water in a take away cup. then there's self service milk and sugar, the milk jug was frankly disgusting so went without. Never again, the small pastries were nice though, coffee was ok and tea was muck.

I think tea has to be the highest mark up of all, 2c hot water, 2c tea bag, a bit of rotten milk that's been left out and gone crusty, and boom €4 profit.

Machine coffee is another wild mark up, almost the same cost as barista coffee with a fraction of the overheads.

cgcsb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122150790#Comment_122150790

where? My brother lived in Paris 10 years ago, I went to see him regularly, never seen prices like that and he lived there and got to know all the best spots.

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122478070#Comment_122478070

Machine coffee shouldn't be as expensive as it is. Wouldn't be surprised if an informal machine coffee pricing cartel is a thing.

cgcsb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122160958#Comment_122160958

sounds like you've been swindled.

2 nurses salaries = approx 90k. Meaning they can get a mortgage for 360k, meaning they would have to come up with roughly 120k themselves. Over 3 years they'd have to save 40k between them on an 80k salary (gross, approx 50k net). A mathematical impossibility even if you assume they do not eat or sleep, you're saying they survived on 5k a year each, just enough for them to rent a bedroom in someone's house.

rowantree18

"sounds like you've been swindled.

Check around - literally all the Indian nurses buy houses. The 2 I'm talking about rented a room together in a house provided by the nursing home they worked for when they first arrived. They cooked communally with the other housemates - veggie stuff like Dahl. They literally don't and didn't go anywhere that costs money. No cinema, drinks or meals out etc. Social life happens with other groups of Indians- communal cooking parties etc. The night manager where I work is in Ireland 10 years and with spouse, they have 2 houses, one rented to other Indians. When they first buy a house they rent rooms to other Indians and save every penny and use that to buy another. I'm telling you I work with these people and they fascinate me. None I've met so far ever really wanted to be nurses, it's totally strategic, to get abroad, buy a house and get their children university education. It's always about the next generation. I get on with this guy at work and pick his brains about how to live cheap. They have every trick in the book. They will rule us.

cgcsb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122478445#Comment_122478445

They'll rule Cavan perhaps. That's no way to live. Even if accommodation was totally free. 10k a year for 2 people for food, clothes, transport (and what megre forms of entertainment they allow themselves) for three whole years is just not possible. They must have paid some rent on their accommodation surely.

zell12

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122478087#Comment_122478087

With restaurants dropping their prices, it was now possible to get a meal for as little as €8 (£6.80, $8.70) in the Latin Quarter

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy7970gz3qro

watchclocker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122478087#Comment_122478087

I'm just back from Paris. Pre olympics.

You can get good meals very cheap in the centre of Paris. 3 courses with 2 or 3 choices for main starting at 15.90. You can spend as much as you want, buy good food is cheap. If you add beer though forget about it. €10 pint average.

drury..

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122478582#Comment_122478582

They're doing ok in the UK

Nothing spectacular afaik

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122478582#Comment_122478582

Once they get on their feet though, then they'll live like anyone else here…

I have a Tesla, and am in the Tesla Ireland facebook group.. about 60-65% of the members there have Irish names, about 5% are foreign non Indian names, and the rest (~30%) are Indian names…

CoffeeImpala

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122478172#Comment_122478172

The 120k is easily made up with a combination of the first home scheme and help to buy. No need to save that much money. You'd only need 20k to add to the 30k HTB and then another 10k for the various fees.

drury..

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122478628#Comment_122478628

What does that mean ?

Tesla and Facebook?

rowantree18

Yes, the Indian 2nd-3rd generations will change, as in the UK. I agree it's not the way we'd live but it doesn't bother the current generation. They are ambitious. And every one of them I've come in contact with has a disdain for the UK as its too "crowded " - and all recommending friends/family come here.

I know this is a long way off bakery prices. But we really do waste money in Ireland.

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122478636#Comment_122478636

a lot of Indian people in Ireland are buying fancy Tesla EV's

Geuze

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122478087#Comment_122478087

https://bouillonlesite.com/bouillon-republique

Two sister restaurants, they have a similar business model as Chartier.

See menu below.

Main courses from 8.90 to 13.90 in central Paris.

Rocket_GD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122478673#Comment_122478673

It all depends on your perception of what a waste of money is.

Someone spending €9 on a coffee and cake might be their only treat to themselves every once in a while but to others it may seem like a waste.

I personally think it's over priced and don't do it myself but then I will buy 2 pints of beer for €13 without a second thought. To others that's a complete waste.

Each to their own really and think we should all stop judging others for how they spend their money.