Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

We can't do it because we don't have pre clearance as the US does (I think it's coming with the migration pact)

Pre-clearance makes it extremely unlikely anyone will come via airlines who might potentially need to be deported, so the airlines will perform these small numbers and the departure countries will accept.

That's not to say people won't come another route of course so really it's much ado about nothing.

Reminds me of some in this thread

https://x.com/stephennolan/status/1820740890152907239?s=46&t=k14oqLOFNUHHG74wJWe-fQ

My point was about racism being involved in the immigration protests. It was to do with skin colour. Some poster said it was never anything to do with racism which is utterly deluded.

I think it's social media's big technical breakthrough - The hatebot

Whatever input you give them they just spew back hatred.

I've heard of people training AI models, but I think it's working both ways.

Or maybe it's a cause for reflection that whether society is monocultural or multicultural there will always be those who sow division and find an "other" to hate and blame for the perceived ills of this world — and who make the simplistic subtraction calculation that simply removing or repelling the existence of that "other" fixes the world around them. The Brits, the Prods, the Fenians, the Papist Free State seeking to devour the Protestant heartlands of Ulster — it's easy to sew up those divisions when you can sow new ones.

And then, in God's good time, the day will come when certain great-grandchildren of people born-and-bred on this island (themselves the descendants of migrants— just as we all are) will find commonality with certain great grandchildren of Eastern European, Asian and African migrants to find common hatred of the next batch of migrants. And just like the guy with Stephen Nolan the other day who claimed that Sandy Row was a great place before the foreigners arrived, they will eulogise and romanticise the halcyon days when Ireland was great back in 2024.

There's no plan to address this.

In an ordinary functioning country, any person should be able to get a job, save up for a deposit, take out a mortgage, then buy a house.

Instead we're jamming as many people into the country as possible while Simon Harris loudly proclaims that there's no housing/accommodation crisis.

It's all just wilful incompetence at this stage.

How do we know usa deports people within hours if you have no passport? I would imagine the person would need to be detained for a long time while they sort papers etc. I'm not sure even the mighty USA can dump anonymous people on planes and send them to countries that don't want anonymous people arriving.

RTE or other Irish media have in the past said things like "a Cork Man" and it turns out to be a foreign guy from some backward country. It creates distrust

Yep, no one has figured out a way of stopping migration to Europe so its not getting better any time soon. Maybe the EU migration pact will help. Maybe Europe should be looking at settling people back in their own countries, giving them financial incentives, investing in countries that have the most emigrants to Europe etc., it would work out better in the long run I'd say, spread the wealth.

Even if we offer no shelter or food or anything many will still come as being homeless in France or ireland probably still has far more opportunities than being in Syria or Nigeria.

Yup Ireland has no deterrent, that's one of the biggest issues.

Little things like:

Taking away medical cards (imagine these illegals get this, it's so abhorrent to me)

Stop giving them tents!!!!

Reduce funding of immigration NGOs

Quick turn around of processing migrates. No migrates should be waiting months and years for a decision.

Reduce the amount of appeals including courts.

Asking nicely to leave has to stop and instead they should be immigration officers escorting the illegals out.

Above is just short term and the Government tomorrow should be preparing migrate centers outside Ireland like what Italy has done, this would stop the pull factor all together and stop the vested interest groups making money of this absolute blight in our country

Plenty of illegal immigrants AS making bogus claims are white, e.g. Albanians, Georgians, USA people, etc.

Their skin colour is not the cause of the protests, and should not be mentioned.

It's the making of the bogus claim, discarding travel documents, pretending to be fleeing persecution, etc., these are the reasons people oppose them.

To be fair to the illegal immigrants, I have seen several openly admit that they are economic migrants when interviewed by the media.

The irony is that sometimes the illegal immigrant is more honest about their own status than the Irish State agency / NGO, e.g. the answers given by the likes of Sinead Gibney.

Isn't the Migration Pact about 2 years away from being implemented?

Interesting times ahead…

Gombeenism abounds here.

Years ago, some wag on Politics.ie labelled Ireland a Gombeenocracy.

Maybe he had a point.

Can't end until they start putting them into foxrock, Dalkey, Greystones and other wealthy areas, until the kids in Gonzaga, Blackrock, Alex start sharing their classrooms with them