Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

I’d love to see Walz put him on the spot about his and his wife’s muddled messaging which seems to be:

If you don’t have kids, fùck you, but if you’ve been trying to have kids you’re okay, but if you’ve used IVF to try, fùck you.

But I really can’t see a VP debate happening any time soon - republicans have little to gain from it and Vance does enough damage with just him on the podium.

Certainly the more I see of Walz and especially clips from his speech last night, he's a great pick for VP. I know there was a lot of talk about picking this guy or another to try solidify votes in those states, but I think Walz seems like such a great all-round pick that he could still appeal enough to most of those voters, balances out Kamala a lot, and will run rings around Vance in any debate.

Maybe…but I would be very surprised if that much thought went into it, let alone even knowing that it's the name of the Ugandan capital.

It's because their deck of garbage patch kids cards isn't complete

interesting the odds have kept getting shorter for Kamala. She is nearly the bookmakers favourite. Although tbf Trump was long odds with them when he won.

Yeah I can't imagine it popping up as one of the results when Trump googled "Capitols of sh*thole countries"

Cmon load you stupid septic tank overflow of a site. Work.

Site/thread is being f*cky. Newest page wasn't loading for whatever reason. Seems to be fixed now (or rather, for now).

What has Uganda to do with American politics?

Edit: I see Flaneur got there before me.

Is it not fair to say that many of the posters waxing lyrical about Harris and Walz were waxing lyric about the wonders of Biden and fully supported his bid to stay in power until 2029, right up to the point where he was removed from the race by the doyens of the Democratic Party.

Why should anyone take your endorsement of Biden’s replacement seriously when you would have happily supported a clearly incompetent Biden were he still running.

How much more 'load' do want to put on those loaded questions?
And hide behind the "just asking questions" shtick?

I don't recall posters "waxing lyrical" (your phrase). So no that's not a fair thing to say.

I recall posters saying a Biden administration, or similar Democratic administration, to be much preferred over that of the election stealing, rapist, fascist, racist felon Trump. That an aging Biden was still the only grown up in such a contest, and could be trusted to have a capable administration. Unlike Trump, who was happy to jeer on a crowd threatening to hang his VP, and who is down to a handful of people from his first administration who will still endorse him.

And note those are all fair to say comments about Trump, well supported by evidence already produced on this thread and forum, which you claim to be familiar with.
Nor is it whataboutery. It is about establishing standards.

Who do you endorse for President and why? I ask because you seem to have taken an interest in such endorsements, so it is an entirely reasonable question to ask, to establish standards.

It's quite simple really.

Firstly, nobody was denying Biden's age was definitely a factor, he was a good bit slower and a worse orator than he was four years ago, and even then most of us would have preferred a different candidate four years ago. But people supported Biden in 2020 because he was a better candidate than Trump. Same goes for 2024. Nobody was denying age being a huge factor and would have preferred if Biden hadn't chosen to run at all again, but still would have supported him because he is a better candidate than Trump. Because despite Biden's age, he has not been deemed to have any actual medical or cognitive dehabilitation which would have meant he shouldn't be President. He's gotten shocking old, no doubt about it. But "clearly incompetent"? No.

Secondly, if Biden won and during his second term he did start to become impaired to the point of not being able to continue as President, people would have more faith in Harris and the entire Biden administration to see out the rest of his term, as there are existing rules and means for Biden to have either stepped aside, or been forced to if required (the 25th Amendment).

Thirdly, the opposition is Trump, and people are far more cognisant of the dangers posed by Trump returning to office. So even if they had to Weekend At Bernie's Biden around on the campaign trail, still a better option than Trump.

All people have to point to with Biden is he was slower talking, moving, stumbled over his words and trailed off on sentences. Signs of getting much older, naturally. That neither constitutes "clearly incompetent" or any kind of significant cognitive impairment which should have disqualified him from a second term. The reason the Dems convinced him to step aside was because it risked him getting a second term at all and was looking more and more likely to hand the Presidency to Trump.