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Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,087 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Not sure about it either. Meanwhile weird barely covers Trump:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    that’s basically it. It was establishment “war hawk” Clinton with Pokemon go to the polls and pandering bottles of hot sauce vs. anti establishment shakeup, with the motto “what do you have to lose?” And now the vast majority of the electorate know what they had to lose and it was a lot. The last 3 election cycles have proven that Trumpism has been in decline ever since.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I'm not seeing any sign of engineering away the police… I love the way you said that you didn't want to misrepresent her then immediately did so....

    https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/26/politics/kfile-kamala-harris-praised-defund-the-police-movement-in-june-2020/index.html



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Sort of but it was just a sound bite. Her point was that reeducation/retraining of police forces, adaptions to their tactics could be useful in lowering crime as it has been elsewhere. Same for directing more money at education, typically higher education in a populace leads to a lowering of crime rates. These are reasonable, justified through experience of other districts, ideas and proposals. They are not dumb. listening to one statement and using it to represent a whole policy might be construed as either misrepresentation (intentional or not). As far as I am aware, she actually increased funding for community policing and her policy was actively for more cops on the beat, i.e. community policing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,503 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    As predicted, completely unable to defend your own claims, you respond with another question. You can't stand over your own claims, so I think we can conclude they are without foundation and without merit.

    The onus is entirely on you - you were the one making the claim, when it seems like you don't even know what she said, and have just been duped by MAGA misinformation propaganda. That's entirely on you too.

    In some US cities, as Harris calls out, one third of the budget goes on policing, and schools and other social programmes are underfunded.
    It requires zero magic to call that unsustainable, and likely to have negative social consequences elsewhere.
    And this is not some magical idea either, it is being put into practice in US cities with initiatives.

    Also, if you're so bothered about such things, where are your posts on Trump's gaffes and "magical ideas"?
    So don't pretend for a minute these are serious accusations against Harris.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,000 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I assume the poster has chosen that particular slur because they havn't gotten any since the Bush Administration. Pun not intended.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    The only way it makes any sense is in an alternate universe where Trump wears a
    “Make ‘Merica Alliterate Again” cap.



  • Posts: 224 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I know I'm probably under some double secret shadow ban but I'll still post my thoughts as it won't matter because nobody will see it anyway.

    With Harris' pick of Walz for VP our lovely mainstream media has fervently gone into Operation Put Lipstick On A Pig, trying to sell voters on the idea that an insanely liberal (by US standards) politician is actually a 'centrist.'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,362 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Between Kinky Kamala and Walz having a couch like that there'll need to be plenty of plastic sheeting laid down before any possible debates. I doubt Trump or Vance would be able to control themselves at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    not sure what you are saying but based on the clip below she is just a "magical thinker" telling some Dem voters what they want to hear, I'd put her at 1st year sociology level

    https://twitter.com/NoVA_Campaigns/status/1816878901185892579

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭thatsdaft




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Jesus, the fear mongering is off the charts! 😂

    You'd think they'd be happy with them letting convicted felons walk free, after all....

    😂

    The bang of desperation is awful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    ”HELL ON EARTH”

    At least they’re suddenly taking global warming seriously



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Wait the “Kamala is too tough in criminals” has now mutated to “Kamala will make convicted criminals walk”?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Weren't you the guy who was accusing posters of being low testosterone about a week back? I'm not sure if I'd be the most confident in your conclusions on the intelligence of anyone. Do you think Donald is an intellectual? 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I don’t think Kamala’s DOJ will let Trump walk



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭sonofenoch




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Walz seems incredibly normal middle America. Teacher, farmer, blue collar worker, and guardsman

    IMG_5811.jpeg

    Vance is a weirdo who puts on eyeliner and worries if Mountain Dew is too racist to drink - and the type of person you don’t want to leave alone around your furniture

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    This was the contrast last year between Walz signing a school free lunch bill and Sanders signing child labor back into law:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,503 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Another link? You're completely unable to support your claims in your own words.
    What do you think she means in the clip you linked and what's magical about it? In your own words.

    1st year sociology level? She was a DA. Your claims have no standing. She has been through the system. Zero magical thinking. You're not even trying to understand the position being expressed, because you have no interest in doing so, you're just looking for mud you can sling at Democrats. You have seized on one line out of context and that's it. You can't explain what is 'magical' about it, you haven't even tried.

    Multiple posters have explained to you the concept she is putting out there. You don't engage with any of it.

    This was put to you in the previous post:
    In some US cities, as Harris calls out, one third of the budget goes on policing, and schools and other social programmes are underfunded. It requires zero magic to call that unsustainable, and likely to have negative social consequences elsewhere. And this is not some magical idea either, it is being put into practice in US cities with initiatives.

    Can you explain how a US city putting one third of its budget into policing will get more safety by putting more cops onto the street (that's a point made in the Twitter link you cited) ? Is that the best use of its resources? What's magical about suggesting resources be directed to other social programmes?

    So you've made multiple posts in this line of attack and zero attempt made to engage with those points. Just playing 'dumb' instead, which is ironic, as that was the basic for your attack on Harris which was completely without foundation or merit. It says more about you than her, that's for sure.

    I am saying your posts have no credibility, you pretend to be concerned about 'magical thinking' yet show zero regard when Republican engage in it. Can you point us to the posts where you criticise Trump and MAGA Republicans for 'magical thinking'? Or being 'dumb'? It's not like there's no shortage of material there.
    If it's something your claim to be concerned about? Well? Where are those posts?

    So your posts are completely hypocritical and demonstrate obvious double standards. They amount to Republican propaganda dumps, and you can't even explain your points in your own words or support the ridiculous claims therein with evidence or explanations in your own words. You could have dug deeper yourself into the nuances of what she said.

    But nope, easier to just dump there here without scrutiny isn't it?

    Which explains why you seem to continually be duped by pro-Trump propaganda.

    Are you clear on what I'm saying now?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    99% of the stuff that Trump people are involved in is either idiotic, embarrassing or totally false. They didn't think that one through too well, did they.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,862 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    yeah give it 4-8 years and he might look more presidential. He might well get a high profile cabinet position if Harris is elected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,155 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Trump Campaign spokesperson apparently just released a statement targeting the choice of Walz.

    One of their complaints against him, he voted to restore voting rights to convicted felons.

    So to summarize for those not paying attention; They are ok with their candidate being a felon, but they have an issue with the Democrat because he says that that felon should be able to vote.

    That is literally what they are doing, and yet it reads like a monty python sketch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Trump can't be told to do anything, his team not have to pull him out of live interviews by putting pressure on the tv producers/editors as Trump simply cannot be shut up if he is on a particular train of thought, stops at the end, looks around for applause, his instant ratings guide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭techdiver


    The fact that anyone associated with the Trump campaign making any comment on criminals is actually halarious! Like it's alternate reality!

    How is this clown show in America still ongoing? As I've said before it's worse than a bad movie that would never get made because it would be too "out there".

    Part of me is thinking that there are enough Americans with sense that Harris will win easily and that the country is finally waking up to the one trick pony piece of **** that Trump actually is. Conversely, part of me worries that despite everything he had said and done prior to the 2020 election he still got as many votes as he did and will so again.

    I just see everything that pops up on my social media feed and to a man every "celebrity" or "online influencer" that supports Trump is a complete piece of garbage (Musk, Tate, Kid Rock, Dana White, etc). I don't see anyone with a shred of human decency support him.

    I have said in the past that any half decent candidate would beat Trump (and Biden was that in 2020),so hoping the same applies to the Harris/Walz ticket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Stanley 1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Posted, sat, and nothing more

    Where is I ask page 134?

    Quoth the server: “404”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    Some unfortunately repeatedly get kept back a year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭ronjo


    MAGA claim to be really happy at Walz selection but can anyone find any of them saying yesterday "Oh I am really worried Harris will win of she selects Shapiro" ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Trump seems to realize that bribe he took from the buttsniffing cybertruck bro hasn’t made him seem any less weird, so to show he’s extra serious about youth outreach he’s blaming his son for being weird and recommending he take the Rolex and stuff

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-barron-adin-ross-b2591980.html?utm_source=reddit.com



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