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Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

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  • #28322
    wovay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 ✭wovay


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122453842#Comment_122453842

    What I mean to say is that if an entity point blank refuses to change in the face of reality years on end, evidently they are in favour of it.

    As for mandate, they are employees of the country, yet somehow are flying in the face of their employers. They therefore don't have a mandate, being essentially rogue.



  • #28323
    batman_oh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122453796#Comment_122453796

    Amazing contribution. When even the government and NGO's admit the vast majority aren't legitimate asylum seekers you still peddle the far right nonsense. It must be amazing to be so detached from reality in your little self righteous bubble. Just keep piling thousands of men that are gaming the asylum system into everywhere we can find sure. It'll totally work out brilliantly as they will all work and integrate and sing and dance together forever.



  • #28324
    MegamanBoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122453670#Comment_122453670

    In theory it could end up anywhere but for now my money's on the lads with the water cannons.

    I'd hate to see anyone else get hurt but with recent reports of plans to target individual Gardai I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Armed Support on standby for future protests.

    I don't know why people continue to rouse these youngsters with lies and hateful rhetoric. There is no u turn available to the government.



  • #28325
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,604 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122453809#Comment_122453809

    Well personally if I come across a guy who's arrived here with all his possessions in a bin liner I'm going to do what I can to give him a dig out regardless of what some flag waving knob in a hi vi's jacket says.



  • #28326
    wovay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 ✭wovay


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122453881#Comment_122453881

    Can you quantify the total of your dig outs so far?

    Are they exclusive to foreign people in bin bags, or are irish people in bin bags included in the winfall too?

    Do you you also share the wisdom of "just get a life" to them too despite their obvious situation?



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  • #28327
    thomas 123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122453734#Comment_122453734

    absolutely in the case of main line issues - 0 effect.



  • #28328
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,534 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122453996#Comment_122453996

    That's where you are wrong.

    Arson attacks and thuggery will ensure that people vote for the status quo.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #28329
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,761 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    With this deplorable court case, can the government appeal or legislate against it?



  • #28330
    Real Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122454051#Comment_122454051

    Sounds like you have skin in the game, what's with insulting concerned people calling them assholes? Some cheek



  • #28331
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,604 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    , I said it " would apply to most mean spirited assholes", why would you take that personal?



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  • #28332
    wovay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 ✭wovay


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122454051#Comment_122454051

    Similar to throwing your body under an out of control bus, being self destructive is no virtue to brag about.

    The people who don't jump under the bus are not "mean spirited".

    Even worse, some stupid gombeen pushing a crowd of people under the bus to display virtue.

    With everything at play in this country, those kind of virtues are literally unaffordable. For those who can personally afford it, they should personally pay for it. But don't go spending other peoples money pretending to be above it all.



  • #28333
    Mike Murdock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122453796#Comment_122453796

    Because the Government is responsible for more lies, more obfuscation, more omission, and more disinformation than any far-right "activists" on Social Media.

    And those lies, obfuscation, omission, and disinformation impact the quality of life, and back pockets, of the citizens they are supposed to serve.



  • #28334
    thomas 123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122453881#Comment_122453881

    That’s nice of you PERSONALLY. However the rest of us on the breadline would also like some say in the matter.



  • #28335
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122453881#Comment_122453881

    If you ever come across? 🤣 …they're not particularly hard to find, go do your bit to help them out …offer a room a space in your garden to pitch a tent



  • #28336
    wovay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 ✭wovay


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122454415#Comment_122454415

    Its typical of the usual bumfluff, a bunch of people patting each other on the back for giving away things not belonging to them, not impacting themselves but others instead, and when it's least affordable, of course!



  • #28337
    kabakuyu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122453881#Comment_122453881

    You'd do feck all,maybe throw him a coin and then boast here.



  • #28338
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,144 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    The morgue pub took its name from a historic morgue back in the day and the blessington tram would regularly drop off dead bodies hit by the tram on the old n81. The road still has no lighting and is so dangerous it had literally zero pedestrians until they opened the ipas in Crooksling, you should see it now , constant flow of pedestrians day and night it's quite dangerous



  • #28339
    rgossip30
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122453796#Comment_122453796

    The MSM is not much different much of it is true .



  • #28340
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,280 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122450770#Comment_122450770

    Our entire previous exchange involved you repeatedly confirming your point.

    And you've just confirmed it again - "take measures to allow people to come here". Much like before it was, "allow them to come using existing ferries and planes to be processed".

    How could anyone possibly you seriously coming out with that sort of stuff.

    God help ya 😂.



  • #28341
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Typically impartial panel on the Tonight show discussing Coolock among other things ..

    are Virgin news still taxing these lads around Dublin in company cars?



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  • #28342
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,280 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122454523#Comment_122454523

    It's only a matter of time before one of them is hit by a car especially with the darker days on the horizon. I've seen groups of them walking the road - no high-vis or anything. That whole site is a disaster but they're trying to expand it.



  • #28343
    boetstark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭boetstark


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122453796#Comment_122453796

    What horseshyte is that Dan



  • #28344
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,761 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122454711#Comment_122454711

    Funny I said the same thing else where.

    Full of absolute left wing nutters. How come there's never the other side of the story on Virgin Media? I think the only time I've seen anyone who voices concerns about immigration was when Ian O'Doherty was on and he tore the blond presenter a new one and I suspect that's why we wont see him again unfortunately.

    Dont get me started on that blond one, bloody hell



  • #28345
    boetstark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭boetstark


    Take a few of them into your house so but don't expect irish taxpayers to support every economic sob story that comes here illegally.

    I suspect that wouldn't happen though



  • #28346
    MegamanBoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122454653#Comment_122454653

    Sure, well the thing is, as much as you lot like to pretend what happens on migrant routes doesn't concern us, or isn't our fault, it has very real consequences for all Irish people.

    If the majority of kids coming here are exposed to violence and sexual abuse, they will be growing up and living here with that background. Some will overcome, but others sadly will not cope so well, which can have a whole manner of consequences.

    For the foreseeable future we are going to have more people from the global south coming to live here. Let's try and make that work as well as we can by not falsely labelling them as 'bogus' and putting them through hell on the way here with deterrent policies which are not working.

    I do think we should we make it safer for people to come here to claim asylum in line with measures to ensure that this is not abused. It's up to airlines and ferries who they allow aboard but we should be applying our border controls here for the above reasons.

    https://www.savethechildren.net/news/children-migrating-europe-experience-horrific-rates-violence-abuse-and-trauma-report



  • #28347
    boetstark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭boetstark


    Very ironic a guy with a profile username such as yours calling others names



  • #28348
    MegamanBoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122453721#Comment_122453721

    That wouldn't apply to McDowell and McNamara though surely 😉

    Do you lot still consider McNamara an anti-immigration politician or has he been 'found out'?



  • #28349
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,604 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122454415#Comment_122454415

    Oh you poor thing, how long have you been on the breadline?



  • #28350
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,280 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122454754#Comment_122454754

    "It's up to airlines and ferries who they allow to board". Emmmm, no. It's largely a matter of immigration legislation and airlines are fined if they breach this.

    But the main thing to note here is that you're once again confirming that you'd be happy for the following airport scenario to become the norm.

    Undocumented scammer: "Hello Sir. I'd like to go to Ireland to claim asylum please. I have no visa, or even passport, and actually I dont even have a ticket. I don't want to tell you my name or where I'm from or anything. Can I go to Ireland now?".

    Airline Employee: "Oh, let me help, you poor fellow. Here's your boarding passes. Don't worry about giving me your name or anything. Just so you know you'll be doing a couple of stopovers en route but don't worry nobody will question you at any point of your journey, you're totally entitled to do this. I'm assuming since you're a refugee you don't have any money so I'll just send the bill to Roderic O'Gorman. Bon voyage and enjoy your new home".

    Have a good think about this now, will you? Think about the chaos that would occur in airports and then here in Ireland in just about every aspect of our society. And then have a think about the fact that we'd probably have to make major global changes to legislation to allow airlines to engage in purposeful breaches of standard security measures.

    Do you not feel ridiculous coming out with this nonsense?



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  • #28351
    wovay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 ✭wovay


    This is all politically dead. No politician has, or will, change tact.

    To get mileage out of a quote, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it".

    People need to organise at local level and be prepared to not back down. And the mandate is there considering that polling regularly goes from 70% to 90% against more migration as it stands.

    Or we can all pretend that the politicians need solutions a chimp could concoct, for the xth year in a row. Everyone knows what's what at this point.



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