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Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

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  • #28232
    I see sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122451457#Comment_122451457

    🤣🤣🤣

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



  • #28233
    Vote4Squirrels
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Vote4Squirrels


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122451594#Comment_122451594

    I'm sorry but that is dangerous nonsense and you know it.

    For one - cleaning ? Let's say you can't speak English and mix two products together that shouldn't be ?

    https://toxedfoundation.org/mixing-cleaners-just-dont/#:~:text=Mixing%20cleaners%20can%20quickly%20produce,NEVER%20drink%20any%20cleaning%20product.

    And how dare you subject nursing home residents, the ACTUAL most vulnerable in society, to anything less than proper care.

    https://www.sundayworld.com/news/irish-news/nursing-home-rapist-came-to-ireland-illegally/39486133.html

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-67622479

    Such a disappointing but sadly characteristic lack of feeling for our citizens.



  • #28234
    wovay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 ✭wovay


    A recent poll in the Irish Times has some interesting results.

    72% want very strict limits on migration.

    22% believe there is a purposeful "great replacement" of Irish people with migrants.

    With the likes of Dundrum, tipperary having a population of 170 people, but being forced to accept over 300 migrants to its only hotel, its little wonder that this replacement idea is gaining traction. There are more than a few areas in Ireland now where Irish people are literally a minority.

    Rather than slowing down, the situation is accelerating.

    This is rapidly becoming a question of existential nature.

    While some will argue that its purposefully done, some will argue that its simply a byproduct of chasing a delinquent economy.

    But it doesn't really matter why, does it? The fact that it is happening is gigantic in its implications.

    Where this leads is no place good, I'm sure everyone can agree on that much at least. It's like pursuing an extremely dangerous experiment with slim chance of success, no matter the rising shouts of warning. Dangerous, strange, existential questions on just what is waiting around the corner.



  • #28235
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,328 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122452228#Comment_122452228

    The Govt. are pressing ahead with putting hundreds of IPA's into communities, and in some cases will far exceed the local population and have no infrastructure to support them, or anything to do during the days and weeks while their "asylum" claims are being processed.. what could possibly go wrong..

    https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/07/31/asylum-seekers-will-be-housed-at-coolock-and-co-tipperary-sites-despite-protests-says-roderic-ogorman/



  • #28236
    wovay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 ✭wovay


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122452258#Comment_122452258

    There are still some people left with no idea of proportionality. Obviously less by the day, but still some in bed asleep, so to speak.

    They can look at the likes of 170 irish people in tipperary about to receive 300 plus migrants overnight, and perhaps some see it as not a big deal.

    But consider it this way. Take a reasonably sized town of 17,000 irish people, and consider the effects of adding 30,000 migrants in the blink of an eye. It's the exact same outcome. Disastrous in so many ways.

    Now consider that this is happening across the entire nation, and accelerating, similar to the boiling frog analogy in many ways.

    There is no non-nefarious way of trying to keep this simple statistical fact out of the public eye. Facts are facts, and to say that a conversation is needed is the understatement of the century.



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  • #28237
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,328 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122452291#Comment_122452291

    True, and there's articles like this appearing to show that the Govt. policies are working against the people…

    https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/ellen-coyne-leaving-coolock-protesters-out-of-talks-with-politicians-is-only-deepening-their-sense-that-there-is-a-conspiracy-against-them/a364238243.html



  • #28238
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122452188#Comment_122452188

    Unskilled nursing home care! …there's no depths the loony left will drop to for excuses



  • #28239
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    We're fucked. Vacate your houses lads and hand them over.

    You can really see why Denmark want as few inside their boarders as possible.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0801/1463025-court-human-rights/



  • #28240
    chooey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 347 ✭✭chooey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122452425#Comment_122452425

    I just saw this- honest to god, I can only imagine how bad things will get now



  • #28241
    giseva
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭giseva


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122452425#Comment_122452425

    So surely if that's the case, Ireland isn't the best option given our Human Rights failings. Will this deter anyone? Will it f@#k.



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  • #28242
    giseva
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭giseva


    But Roderic says people's fears are never realized 😅



  • #28243
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122452375#Comment_122452375

    Are you emailing your election candidates yet about this issue? You really should. Now is the time. Election in 3 months time. Ring is not running (thankfully, gombeen TD) but find out who has been selected to run in Mayo. The Dillon lad seems to have some common sense. Also email the clowns running the show in Dublin. Emails work. TDs see them as votes to be won or lost.

    The alternative is to attack Megamanboo who has no say on government policy whatsoever.

    What's happening in SuperValu out of interest?

    Post edited by Cluedo Monopoly on

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #28244
    JP 1800
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭JP 1800


    My first thought when I have seen this ruling is we are screwed financially and socially. I understand that points of law are considered but the lack of consideration for the outcome and ability to act on that verdict is what amazes me with the Judiciary. Its akin to fining an average Joe 2 million euros for not having enough spare rooms in his house and expecting him to sort it out regardless of his ability to pay. Crazy stuff. Things are going to get a lot more incendiary as time goes by. More of a reason now to force through more IPAS centres. Look at the UK at the moment we are not far behind.



  • #28245
    Thorny Queen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭Thorny Queen


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122452425#Comment_122452425

    We need to get ahead and quickly redefine what a 'Refugee' is at this stage, as what is happening is simply a horrible train crash happening, without the emergency brake.

    When new houses in my local area are now being sold for 450k unfurnished- without any white goods, flooring, tiles etc...we are now at a deeply critical time.

    Then we have 'refugees' who get fast tracked to the top of social housing lists qnd also given private rental properties, ahead of others. And others who have been on the lists years and years. Joke, just a joke.



  • #28246
    creeper1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭creeper1


    Better get used to paying big fines.

    The EU migration pact is just going to be used as a vehicle for just that.

    I say that because I can't see them building enough for what is here never mind what is coming.

    And guess what. If you don't take your quota you get fined.

    Maybe they can just use the tax surplus from the multinationals to pay it and just leave the actual average tax payer the f alone.

    If not I don't know how psychologically people could bring themselves to pay tax.



  • #28247
    rdser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭rdser


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122452425#Comment_122452425

    They have made an absolute mess of this issue. I wouldn't be confident it will get any better in either the shorter or longer term and its clear from listening to Roderick, Simon, Mehole and Co, they really couldn't give a sh!te what the people think. They have bought into this and god be damned what the people want. Its a terrible situation, and largely the governments mess and there is zero sign of them sorting it in any fashion.

    We will be paying the price for this coalition for a long time to come….and that goes well beyond just migration.



  • #28248
    creeper1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭creeper1


    Roderick misrepresented himself when standing for the green party.

    I think of green party. I think of campaigns to build cycle lanes. I think of campaigns to reduce, reuse and recycle.

    Maybe incentives to use electric vehicles. Stuff like that.

    I don't think of campaigns to empower travelers, the roma community or AS.

    Not saying there's anything wrong with that but should that not be the preserve of the hard left like people before profit or the like?



  • #28249
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,949 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    It's a lot easier to just pay fines . Or pay a third party country to process Asylum Seekers. Which will be agreed by the EU soon.



  • #28250
    Lotus Flower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭Lotus Flower


    The damage and destruction caused, it’s insane what they’ve done to us



  • #28251
    I see sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122452375#Comment_122452375

    The Crusades isn't a place.

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



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  • #28252
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122452719#Comment_122452719

    Green Party members the world over are often referred to as watermelons, peel away the green exterior and you have a red underbelly.

    Roderic skips the green exterior and goes straight to the point to be fair to him. He’s the polar opposite of Eamon Ryan, nothing but lip service for the environment but all in on the arrogant social justice warrior buzz.



  • #28253
    Francie Barrett
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,073 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122452425#Comment_122452425

    An awful judgement!

    The government will use this as carte blanche to spend more money on asylum. Better benefits and services for asylum will only attract more asylum seekers here. More asylum seekers will then put additional demand on resources and services. We'll be back to square one, needing to add yet more money to the asylum budget.



  • #28254
    Covid19
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭Covid19


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122452758#Comment_122452758

    That's what you took from my post?

    "The Crusades isn't a place"

    I'll fix it for you. The Crusades is a place on the historical timeline of the battle between one religious belief and another. Islam v Christianity.

    Hope that puts everything into perspective for you.



  • #28255
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122452596#Comment_122452596

    Jesus H, Roderic is gone in 3 months. 90 days. Focus your anger somewhere worthwhile. Have you ever emailed a TD about your fears?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #28256
    Lotus Flower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭Lotus Flower


    he’ll be gone in 3 months but the damage he has caused won’t be



  • #28257
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,583 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122452622#Comment_122452622

    Maybe it will focus officials minds at the ports and airports. No passport no entry.



  • #28258
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122452805#Comment_122452805

    You could try responding to me directly.

    Cry me a river on Roderic. He is a minister for 4 years - ALL his actions were fully approved by FFG in Cabinet and he did not invent our crappy immigration process. They are fooling you all by making him your scapegoat.

    Have you ever emailed a TD about this? Or do you think Harris and Co read Boards?

    The helplessness on this thread is truly pathetic.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #28259
    Lotus Flower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭Lotus Flower


    you’re pulling me up for not quoting your post? My post is directly under yours so I would think it’s pretty obvious what I was replying to

    Edit: have just seen your edit @Cluedo Monopoly and I have emailed TDs many times as I’m sure others have



  • #28260
    kabakuyu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122452719#Comment_122452719

    There's no difference between the greens and PBP except that PBP are upfront about their policies,whereas the greens use stealth and dishonesty to advance their policies,I actually think that the green party is the most dangerous political party in Ireland and are doing untold and irreparable damage to this country.



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  • #28261
    baldbear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,629 ✭✭✭baldbear


    In the UK you can apply to work after 12 months if a decision has not been made regarding your application. In Ireland it is 5 months.

    So I bet my last Euro if an international applicant works after the 5 months they will receive free state provided accomodation in a IPAS centre, food,don't have to pay bills and get a medical card.

    We are making it so attractive for economic migrants to come here abuse our asylum system. It is so infuriating for law abiding citizens paying their taxes. Our elderly relatives can't get the carers hours they deserve but yet we throw millions at sharks refurbishing buildings to house people abusing our good nature.



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