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Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,519 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Unskilled nursing home care! …there's no depths the loony left will drop to for excuses



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    We're fucked. Vacate your houses lads and hand them over.

    You can really see why Denmark want as few inside their boarders as possible.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0801/1463025-court-human-rights/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 347 ✭✭chooey


    I just saw this- honest to god, I can only imagine how bad things will get now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭giseva


    So surely if that's the case, Ireland isn't the best option given our Human Rights failings. Will this deter anyone? Will it f@#k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭giseva


    But Roderic says people's fears are never realized 😅



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,627 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Are you emailing your election candidates yet about this issue? You really should. Now is the time. Election in 3 months time. Ring is not running (thankfully, gombeen TD) but find out who has been selected to run in Mayo. The Dillon lad seems to have some common sense. Also email the clowns running the show in Dublin. Emails work. TDs see them as votes to be won or lost.

    The alternative is to attack Megamanboo who has no say on government policy whatsoever.

    What's happening in SuperValu out of interest?

    Post edited by Cluedo Monopoly on

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭JP 1800


    My first thought when I have seen this ruling is we are screwed financially and socially. I understand that points of law are considered but the lack of consideration for the outcome and ability to act on that verdict is what amazes me with the Judiciary. Its akin to fining an average Joe 2 million euros for not having enough spare rooms in his house and expecting him to sort it out regardless of his ability to pay. Crazy stuff. Things are going to get a lot more incendiary as time goes by. More of a reason now to force through more IPAS centres. Look at the UK at the moment we are not far behind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Thorny Queen


    We need to get ahead and quickly redefine what a 'Refugee' is at this stage, as what is happening is simply a horrible train crash happening, without the emergency brake.

    When new houses in my local area are now being sold for 450k unfurnished- without any white goods, flooring, tiles etc...we are now at a deeply critical time.

    Then we have 'refugees' who get fast tracked to the top of social housing lists qnd also given private rental properties, ahead of others. And others who have been on the lists years and years. Joke, just a joke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭creeper1


    Better get used to paying big fines.

    The EU migration pact is just going to be used as a vehicle for just that.

    I say that because I can't see them building enough for what is here never mind what is coming.

    And guess what. If you don't take your quota you get fined.

    Maybe they can just use the tax surplus from the multinationals to pay it and just leave the actual average tax payer the f alone.

    If not I don't know how psychologically people could bring themselves to pay tax.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭rdser


    They have made an absolute mess of this issue. I wouldn't be confident it will get any better in either the shorter or longer term and its clear from listening to Roderick, Simon, Mehole and Co, they really couldn't give a sh!te what the people think. They have bought into this and god be damned what the people want. Its a terrible situation, and largely the governments mess and there is zero sign of them sorting it in any fashion.

    We will be paying the price for this coalition for a long time to come….and that goes well beyond just migration.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭creeper1


    Roderick misrepresented himself when standing for the green party.

    I think of green party. I think of campaigns to build cycle lanes. I think of campaigns to reduce, reuse and recycle.

    Maybe incentives to use electric vehicles. Stuff like that.

    I don't think of campaigns to empower travelers, the roma community or AS.

    Not saying there's anything wrong with that but should that not be the preserve of the hard left like people before profit or the like?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,062 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    It's a lot easier to just pay fines . Or pay a third party country to process Asylum Seekers. Which will be agreed by the EU soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭Lotus Flower


    The damage and destruction caused, it’s insane what they’ve done to us



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,121 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Green Party members the world over are often referred to as watermelons, peel away the green exterior and you have a red underbelly.

    Roderic skips the green exterior and goes straight to the point to be fair to him. He’s the polar opposite of Eamon Ryan, nothing but lip service for the environment but all in on the arrogant social justice warrior buzz.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,129 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    An awful judgement!

    The government will use this as carte blanche to spend more money on asylum. Better benefits and services for asylum will only attract more asylum seekers here. More asylum seekers will then put additional demand on resources and services. We'll be back to square one, needing to add yet more money to the asylum budget.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭Covid19


    That's what you took from my post?

    "The Crusades isn't a place"

    I'll fix it for you. The Crusades is a place on the historical timeline of the battle between one religious belief and another. Islam v Christianity.

    Hope that puts everything into perspective for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,627 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Jesus H, Roderic is gone in 3 months. 90 days. Focus your anger somewhere worthwhile. Have you ever emailed a TD about your fears?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭Lotus Flower


    he’ll be gone in 3 months but the damage he has caused won’t be



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Maybe it will focus officials minds at the ports and airports. No passport no entry.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,627 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    You could try responding to me directly.

    Cry me a river on Roderic. He is a minister for 4 years - ALL his actions were fully approved by FFG in Cabinet and he did not invent our crappy immigration process. They are fooling you all by making him your scapegoat.

    Have you ever emailed a TD about this? Or do you think Harris and Co read Boards?

    The helplessness on this thread is truly pathetic.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭Lotus Flower


    you’re pulling me up for not quoting your post? My post is directly under yours so I would think it’s pretty obvious what I was replying to

    Edit: have just seen your edit @Cluedo Monopoly and I have emailed TDs many times as I’m sure others have



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    There's no difference between the greens and PBP except that PBP are upfront about their policies,whereas the greens use stealth and dishonesty to advance their policies,I actually think that the green party is the most dangerous political party in Ireland and are doing untold and irreparable damage to this country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭baldbear


    In the UK you can apply to work after 12 months if a decision has not been made regarding your application. In Ireland it is 5 months.

    So I bet my last Euro if an international applicant works after the 5 months they will receive free state provided accomodation in a IPAS centre, food,don't have to pay bills and get a medical card.

    We are making it so attractive for economic migrants to come here abuse our asylum system. It is so infuriating for law abiding citizens paying their taxes. Our elderly relatives can't get the carers hours they deserve but yet we throw millions at sharks refurbishing buildings to house people abusing our good nature.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,627 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    This thread moves fast. How am I to know you replied at all if you don't use Quote button.

    Good for you. What did your TDs say about the problems?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭giseva


    Oh I have don't worry. The irreversible damage is long done and this idiot is patting himself in the back…..let me have my anger!

    Pathetic? You're just assuming posters haven't voiced they're concerns to their TDs.

    Maybe ministers do read this, I bet their staff do.....who knows, maybe you're Roderic!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,437 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    I see Italy has managed to open a migrant centre in Albania, and seems to be the way some EU countries, Denmark included will deal with the migration issue by processing asylum claims in a 3rd country… Would take the pressure off EU states to provide accommodation for migrants who arrive here to claim asylum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,627 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,129 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    100%

    These types of policy matters are decided at a cabinet level, the idea that O' Gorman has somehow went behind the cabinet and went rogue is ridiculous.

    FF/FG own the immigration mess just as equally as the Greens.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,266 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    You seem to have assumed that deciding who is and isn't eligible for asylum is a quite straightforward process.

    Why then do so many cases get overturned, often after lengthy appeal?

    If it can take that long for our well educated legal professionals to decide who meets the criteria, how can you expect some lad in war torn Sudan to just somehow know?

    I'm not claiming there are a large amount of genuine errors, I wouldn't know, nor would you, but the fact there are some makes it plainly inaccurate to label people 'bogus' or 'chancers'



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