Mayo GAA Discussion

Based on what exactly? Our record in finals or ability to break down ultra defensive teams ?

In 2021, how experienced was O'Hora, or Plunkett, or Mullin, or Ruane, or Walsh, or Loftus, or Conroy, or ROD at senior intercounty football? How long had they been established intercounty starters? How many elite defensive teams had they faced? How many AI finals had they played in? For those who had - how old were they and wasnt that the covid final, with no supporters? Same goes for the majority of guys on the bench, and plenty more not in the 26. Aidan O'Shea on the oisin mcconville podcast indicated how mayo probably got a bit carried away after the Dublin win that year and how he spoke to horan afterwards about regretting not trying to reign things in a bit, with horan saying that he felt the same way - they were clearly a young and inexperienced team and that was obvious in how they played that game.

The 2021 Mayo team had vastly more experience of AI finals than the Tyrone team that beat them or the the Armagh team that won yesterday so l think we can knock the inexperience notion on the head. Inexperience didnt stop us knocking out a vastly more experienced Dublin team in the semi final. It has been more mentality issues than experience that has cost us finals.

Do people actually think, player for player, Mayo were the better team than Tyrone in 2021? I don't think there was much between the two teams, with Tyrone probably shading it with the players at their disposal. I recall Mayo being unable to put in a full 70 mins in any game that year (awful against both Galway and Dublin in the first half s. Dublin really let that second half and ET be played foolishly on Mayo terms - i.e chaos)

Let's at Galway and Padraic Joyce.

2021 - Lost Connacht Final.

2022 - Lost the AIF.

2023 - Lost League Final.

2024 - Lost another AIF.

At what point do Galway start to be questioned and get even a fraction that of the abuse and negative commentary that we get? Answer: Never, because they're the aristocrats of football. 🙄 Walsh, Comer etc. have all sh*t the bed now too many times but will still be lauded as great footballers. Galway still be favourites for Connacht next year and be picked to win Sam by many. Absolute joke! They got extremely lucky this year, can't see them getting as lucky again.

Congrats to Armagh, by far the better team, more organised, played well and deserved the win. No way will McGeeney walk away, he'll want to put everything into getting an Ulster title next year.

As for ourselves, if anything this year showed that we are not far away if we could get all our players fit and get a better management team because McStay is taking us nowhere. We would have been destroyed in a QF this year. I don't think he deserves another year for taking us backward at a rate of knots because the CB are spineless so will give him one. Regardless of him having another 2 years left on his term, I think the dogs on the street know and believe that it's either Sam or a P45 for him next year. If not, then another group will have retired without winning the big one.

Galway players are getting plenty of stick dont worry.

Yeah just get new Mayo management in that'll sort it.

I've been hearing 'we're not far away' since 89. Meanwhile Donegal, Derry, Down, Armagh, Cork, Kerry, Dublin, Galway, Tyrone and Meath come and pick up all irelands.

Any truth in Rochford coming to Kildare, is he gone from Kevin's management team?

Probably just an unsubstantiated rumour to be honest, but there are rumorus in Kildare that he is going to be on Flanno's management team. I don't see why you would leave Mayo to come to Kildare.

I do think there'll be a shake up in the Mayo management. Who the departures will be or where they'll go, I do not know.

I do think this could be in the pipeline. Can't say I'd be in favour. Not sure I rate Moran as a management type, even if he might be a great motivator.

IS it harsh to base an opinion on his book and say that I don't think Moran would be ruthless enough to be a good manager.

I think the fact that New York beat Leitrim even if it went to penalties is enough to say no. While he was an exceptional footballer, as a manager he has not done anything that suggest he should warrant inclusion.

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