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"Last Supper" depiction at Olympics Opening Ceremony

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,451 Cluedo Monopoly
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    No issue whatsoever

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,482 suvigirl
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,659 nullzero
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    It's fair game to take the proverbial out of Christianity but these people wouldn't even contemplate doing anything that would offend other beliefs.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 Seneca the Stoic
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    Finally, a nuanced and thoughtful response made in good faith, rather than “lol, why u so outraged”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 highpitcheric
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    it must be getting on a decade now that the trans have been letting us all know about their presence.

    everyone knows by now, we get it.

    Why must they constantly have their moment.

    they have a whole month, every year. Not enough.

    Maybe some day some other worthy group in society might get some attention.

    Bailey had a borderline personality" based on "narcissism, psycho-rigidity, violence, impulsiveness, egocentricity with an intolerance to frustration and a great need for recognition".

    • Psychiatrist Jean Michel Masson and psychologist Katy Lorenzo-Regreny


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,502 Larbre34
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    You would.

    It was a slightly odd artistic stylisation within the performance alright.

    If the DaVinci painting was on display in Paris, I could understand the reference (as with the Mona Lisa running gag), but it isn't, its in the Convent of Santa Maria della Grazie in Milan, so I don't really know what they were on about.

    But to be fair, they did have a gag about fundamentalist Muslim jihadis; the lad running about the rooftops with a ballyclava and an improvised pipe-bomb, so people can relax TF.

    By the way, fair play to Universal and the animators at Illumination Arts, the Minions interludes were actually flippin hilarious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 Seneca the Stoic
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    They’re not ‘aghast and angry’ at the portrayal. They’re questioning a possible double standard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,677 eightieschewbaccy
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    It amazes me the number of people on this thread who don't understand the difference between transgender people and drag acts… A handful of drag acts in a show filled with thousands of performers doesn't sound like a whole lot either. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,482 suvigirl
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    You know drag artists are not transgender?

    Well, obvs some might be , but drag is entertainment, nothing else. Been around for centuries.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,757 Ezeoul
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    I think the minions were my favourite bit.

    Them, or the horse on the water. That was class.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,030 jackboy
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    Whatever about the last supper what was the story with the naked obese smurf? Who was he representing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,581 One eyed Jack
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    Why is it OK to do this to Christians and not Jews or Muslims?

    If they don't want that question asked why go near it at all?

    Seems one religious cult is fair game and others are not.


    What’s fair game about it though? It wasn’t mocking Christianity, it was a theatrical performance of the Last Supper, and I’ll be honest I didn’t make the connection because I thought the whole spectacle was meant to be a French fashion show.

    The simplest explanation is that the creators of the show were most likely Christian themselves and thereby unfamiliar with what would be considered minority religions in the West that didn’t have the influence in Western culture and society that Christianity has had. There was no “fair game” there, it was intended as a celebration and a theatrical spectacle.

    Fwiw it’s about right that it was going to offend a tiny minority of people, in the same way Muslim, Jewish or Hindu cultural representations would invariably have offended only a handful of Muslims, Jews or Hindus, and everyone else would have enjoyed it for what it was intended to be - a celebration!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,853 breezy1985
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,694 AllForIt
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    If the DaVinci painting was on display in Paris, I could understand the
    reference (as with the Mona Lisa running gag), but it isn't, its in the
    Convent of Santa Maria della Grazie in Milan, so I don't really know
    what they were on about.

    Yes, I was trying to figure out what the relevance/meaning of the act in question could be and did wonder if maybe the painting was on display is Paris, but no, not that either. So it looks like it was a DEI think for the sake of it.

    Well at least the ceremony did conclude with a person who does actually look good in a dress.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,442 o1s1n
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    I always thought the Battlestar Galactica one was particularly well done.

    It does beg the question, why doesn't the OP see this as 'an homage to The Last Supper' rather than straight away assuming it to be negative and derogatory? (It can be a bad homage too by the way)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,853 breezy1985
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    Would happily get down on my knees and give my body and soul to Tricia Helfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,694 AllForIt
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    Lefty Gays. That's what the L actually stands for 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 highpitcheric
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    if you think a bearded bloke dancing around center stage in a corset and thigh highs is nothing to do with lgbtq then youre simply wrong.

    Bailey had a borderline personality" based on "narcissism, psycho-rigidity, violence, impulsiveness, egocentricity with an intolerance to frustration and a great need for recognition".

    • Psychiatrist Jean Michel Masson and psychologist Katy Lorenzo-Regreny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,482 suvigirl
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    If you think that drag artists are transgender, then you are wrong 🙄



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 seenitall
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    Bacchus/Dionysus, the Greek/Roman god of excessive eating, drinking (wine), carnal indulgence and general merrymaking.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,839 ancapailldorcha
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    Why do you go and do it to them then so? Nobody is stopping you.

    Otherwise, there's not really any point to this beyond you trying to create more pointless outrage.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,853 breezy1985
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    It's an absolute disgrace the way it's okay to mock the Greek/Roman gods.

    We all know they wouldn't be brave enough to make fun of Ra.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 highpitcheric
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    its all the same schtick, be honest. Its yet more 'only gay in the village' attention craving.

    Its not that people are opposed or offended, its that theyre tired.

    You get a whole month. Can someone else please have their turn.

    Maybe the elderly, or the disabled, or highschoolers. There are other issues and other people out there struggling too you know.

    Bailey had a borderline personality" based on "narcissism, psycho-rigidity, violence, impulsiveness, egocentricity with an intolerance to frustration and a great need for recognition".

    • Psychiatrist Jean Michel Masson and psychologist Katy Lorenzo-Regreny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 SonicSuper
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    Can only imagine the uproar if Muslims had of been insulted in the same fashion but of course we all know they'd never cross that line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,659 nullzero
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    You're ignoring the obvious.

    Drawing the prophet Mohamed resulted in 12 people dying, in the very same city no less.

    A few people being slightly put out by drag artists mimicking the last supper isn't the same thing, so the question of why it's ok to say or do things about one belief system and not the other is valid.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,442 o1s1n
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    Again, I asked above, why do you assume it was done to be insulting?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 highpitcheric
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    Bailey had a borderline personality" based on "narcissism, psycho-rigidity, violence, impulsiveness, egocentricity with an intolerance to frustration and a great need for recognition".

    • Psychiatrist Jean Michel Masson and psychologist Katy Lorenzo-Regreny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,677 eightieschewbaccy
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    Firstly, I'm straight. Secondly, this amounts to drag acts performing. You and a few others incorrectly started complaining about transgender people because you apparently don't understand the difference between drag and a transgender person. In terms of the number of people offended, it doesn't seem to be a whole lot tbh.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,156 Doc07
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    As a western Christian I take it as a compliment and am also very glad that majority of us are relaxed about religion (and no longer overly controlled by it) and won’t protest or cause harm when our region is lampooned.
    I don’t think there was much artistic merit in it as it’s getting a bit lazy and passé maybe the drag stuff but I’m certainly not offended. I’d also see it as progress that our western culture has become more secular and isn’t afraid or ruled by the church anymore compared to even 20 years ago when there would actually be trouble and protests for slagging Jesus . Ask Steward Lee who had his career ruined for a good few years after lampooning Jesus in a play and that was central London not bible bashing US rednecks.
    That other religions/heavily religious influenced cultures haven’t evolved enough to take a joke is on them not on western christians .

    I still go to Mass every month or so and my kids say prayers before bed at night but I’m not offended by this. Considering its the Olympics which strives for values like higher , stronger, faster etc they could have left out the token inclusion of an obese person.



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