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The 2024 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,637 ✭✭✭dobman88


    Draw.

    Galway will be hanging on at the end. Armagh will kick a late free to level it and win in extra time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,796 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,637 ✭✭✭dobman88


    I did have that in mind when thinking about this game. But also the Kerry game. Armagh finished strongly and Kerry were completely gassed. I think Galway will start fast, they'll have to, but Armaghs superior fitness and ability to keep themselves in games before a late push will be the difference in extra time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,796 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    armag-final-team.jpg

    Armagh team, Connaire Mackin in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,201 ✭✭✭threeball


    Two things, Galway never start fast, they spend 35 mins feeling out a game, so they certainly won't need to in those game.

    Secondly, where's the evidence of Armaghs superior fitness. Galway outlasted Dublin and had more in the tank than Donegal despite losing multiple key players to injury.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    Loyalists seem to be getting annoyed as the TUV were complaining about Mark Sidebottom having orange face paint. They view it as impartial because BBC presenters don't paint their face orange on the 12th July. I don't think loyalists realise that Armagh wear orange because of the colour of the fruit. Protestants use of orange is very different.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,747 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Tough game to call. I fancy Galway but cannot give any valid reasons why..maybe because they are more experienced then Armagh. Hopefully it's an exciting game on Sunday and also hope the referee doesn't influence the result unlike what happened in the hurling last Sunday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭I says


    the ref had no bearing on last weeks game. Cork bottled it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭FullBack Jam


    Cork didn't bottle it. They played well. Clare played slightly better, and won by a very small margin in the end.

    Referee decisions had a small bearing on the result. In all matches there will be decisions by the ref that are not correct. But in most matches, the decisions may not be too noticeable and they generally even themselves out to a large extent. But on Sunday, the big decisions went against Cork, and they were very obvious. It wasn't on purposes by the ref, linesmen and umpires. It was just the way it happened. That being said, the Cork boys on the hurling thread really need to get over it.

    Anyway, back to the football. Looking like it's going to be dry weather for Sunday which is great. Should be a good contest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭C__MC


    Hurson is a very good ref. However he does tend to make a big call when the game is in the melting pot. That Spillane free in 2022 and last year he was very hard on monaghan late on as dublin squeezed. He gave dublin a free in, loooked a free out to me. He will let alot go no doubt. Must be conflicting for him being a tyrone man. I would feel that way anyway. Mayo fans no doubt feeling like how we all felt two weeks ago in the euros final.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭C__MC


    I think it will be a game cat and mouse for 50 odd mins and than maybe a whirlwind finish



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,796 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    We know why the OO are orange, the origin of the Armagh colours is unclear. Not many people ate oranges when those colours were adopted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,414 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    lf I'm allowed to express an opinion, I think if Galway are to win this, they do have to start strong and lead from the front. They may be able then to counter attack and keep ahead, but tbh I can't see them getting stronger as the game progresses.

    A big factor in them beating Dublin was that they were tiring and unable to provide support runners, so hence they kicked the ball long and early more often. It worked well, but on another day against a team maybe less inclined to commit forward than Dublin, it might not work as well.

    Armagh have a decent squad, who all swam physically in good shape, and they've used it well in previous games. Several players have come off the bench all year and consistently made impacts, I think Heaney is the only person to consistently do that for Galway? Add to that, I have reservations about both Gleeson and the Galway fullback who I think is a strapping lad but seems very 'all or nothing', and there is every possibility they will do something daft over the 80 odd minutes.

    Armagh's half back line has attacked well, McCambridge in particular of late, and they will look to negate the likes of Walsh and Tierney by running them backwards more often than they want to. They will need to get parity in the middle though, and the aforementioned Tierney has been one of several big targets for Gleeson's booming kicks when needed.

    It'll be a tight one I think - I don't often back a draw but I'd not rule out level after 80 minutes and extra time. In that case I'd fancy Armagh. If the game is still there in the last quarter, the likes of Oisin O'Neill, Campbell, and Nugent and Burns from the bench might get Armagh over the line.

    TLDR Armagh by or Galway by 4 or 5.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,844 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Looks like you have all angles covered there Armagh or Galway by 4 or 5, draw after normal time, draw after extra time…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,414 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Armagh after extra time it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭YabaDabaDooley


    Galway slight favourites but most pundits i've heard are going for Galway. Eight out of nine Indo journalists tipped Galway today with only Philly McMahon going for a draw. For a game so evenly matched and with recent games between the two being so close Galway seem to be roasting hot favourites in the pundit world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    I don't like this 👆hope no-one near the team is paying ant attention to these pundits



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Avon8


    It's been fairly 50/50 on any pods or other media I've seen/heard. A lot going for the draw (bookies liability on it is excessive I hear), with Armagh edging extra time. Those tipping Galway is always in normal time. Given it'll be 22 degrees, Geezers rep for fitness training and the strength of the Armagh bench, id probably agree



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭YabaDabaDooley


    I've no preference for either county. Like both of them. A win for either will be a great story. After some thought i'm going to side with Armagh to get over the line. Something like 1-17 v 1-15. Looking forward to a great game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,796 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Armagh have not been beaten by more than 2 points since April 2022, which included 3 games against Galway, 2 against Derry and 3 against Donegal and of course Kerry. Pundits can't really just saw "draw", so they are predicting a small Galway victory. But if there is only 2 points in it, then it could go either way, e.g. a ball hits the post and comes out to either a forward or back. So Galway may be 55% likely to win and the pundits have to tip them, but it wouldn't take much to overturn their prediction.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭YabaDabaDooley


    Very little in it. What do you think yourself?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,414 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Pass no heed on a lot of pundits, basically the likes of the Indo sell more papers in Galway than in Armagh, and won't want to have it thrown at them 'they wrote us off'. Plus, there is a severe love in with PJ in particular in a lot of the media , so they don't want to burst that bubble by criticizing him.

    I don't have a dog in the fight, just hope it's a good game TBH. Armagh of the early noughties with their one in a row had a very poor return in terms of AI medals, considering the influence they ultimately had on the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Still a surprise that Armagh beating Kerry hasn't increased their opinion of them. Had Kerry beaten Armagh as they were expected to do so then most of those pundits would be predicting Kerry to beat Galway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Seadin


    Hard one to call. I think Galway might do it just but wouldn't be surprised if Armagh won it either. Hope it's a great entertaining game and may the best team win and especially that the referee and umpires get decisions right unlike the hurling last week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,389 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Hoping as an Ulster man Armagh win , but I haven’t seen alot of football this year . Though Armagh looked good in the semi’s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,807 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Kerry in football are similar to Limerick in hurling, hard beat in a final but can be caught in a semi final by the underdog

    I hope a red card doesn't ruin the game tomorrow



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Armagh have some of the best support in the country , i love them to bits but i just think galway have too much , the performances of rob finerty, cillian mcdaid ,sean Mullerian ,john maher and liam silke on so many days that paul conroy , damien comber, shane walsh or sean kelly underperformed or didnt play , not to mention the full back line of fitzgerld ,jack glynn and johnny mcgrath its a serious team

    i would love armagh to win it but cant see it , to me this is the moment of the championship

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭French Toast


    I’m a neutral backing Galway today but would be happy to see either win it. Clare for the hurling and Galway for the football, the West’s awake!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭YabaDabaDooley


    Lovely morning in the capital. Dubs not in the final but i'll enjoy the day as i always do regardless. Will enjoy the craic meeting Galway and Armagh folk around the city and in a few pubs i frequent. Football and hurling All Ireland finals day my two favourite days of the year.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭cmac2009


    Galway by 3 points for me, their attacking play is far superior to Armagh's. Kerry should have been out of sight in the first half in the semi. Galway won't pass up the same opportunities.



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