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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,142 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Regardless of the car type, the fun for this trip sounds like getting off the motorways and just driving for the fun of it. Glad that you had a fun relaxing day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,534 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    IMG20240719125105.jpg

    @unkel, spotted this gem in the Anglesey Transport Museum earlier. Weren't you refurbishing one a few months ago?

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,493 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Yep, tidied it up, local bike shop did the tyres and brakes. I then bypassed all the original electronics, refurbished the original motor, then installed a modern 36V system with a lithium ion battery and handlebar throttle. All running fine and driving but needed more mechanical work, which is neither my forte nor my interest, so I sold it on

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    Second hand EQE 300's start from 58k on DD. What kind of 2nd hand value would boardsies expect a 2022 or 2023 to retail for this time next year?

    Looking at Brady's mercedes in Dublin they refer to VAG financing. Any idea what APR one would be looking at here. Details are sparse on the website. If they dropped to 50k then I could in theory only need to finance 30k (HP) but going through with the deal would very much depend on the cost of finance.

    Tesla, vw and Hyundai are very transparent when it comes to financing but jesus mercedes are a disaster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Mach Two


    How do EV batteries fare when idle/used for short journeys a lot. When I say idle I mean parked for a few days and then maybe driving 30 km. Then idle for a few days again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,771 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    The EQE is never going to be in big demand. They had to cut the prices big time earlier this year. I can see it bring discontinued soon.

    That said, I kinda like them.

    I expect some bargains out of them in the used market next year or so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,316 ✭✭✭✭josip


    That would work out at around 5000km per year? As long as it's not sitting above 80% charge for those days you'll be grand. But your EV fuel savings will be low with that mileage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    €50K in 2025 for a used base model EQE sounds realistic. It will depend on availability more than anything. They didn’t sell well hence expect that there won’t be a lot of them for sale at 3 years old. Owners that bought the heavily discounted stock recently are unlikely to be moving them on anytime soon. Some demo 2023 and pre registered 2024 cars are still sitting on Merc forecourts if you you’re a cash buyer and fancy a haggle now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    I agree it's an awful location. Drove in and straight out again last Wednesday due to the lack of services. Ended up stopping at Chester services (Gridserve) who have 12 x 350kW. £0.50kWh for the summer if you use their app.

    https://www.plugshare.com/location/569890



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    Johnstown House (Tesla) is a good option, but be aware that you will end up paying the toll charge twice if you are stopping for food. Kinnegad Plaza is a good option for charging as there are multiple units. Avoid Applegreen Enfield (both directions) - single charger at both locations and you may not want to queue.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,534 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I was actually going the other direction so Chester was in the wrong location

    If they opened the cafe for longer and did up the car park and signage it'd probably be grand

    I suppose it's a good sign if CPOs are fighting for locations even along what would be considered fairly minor roads in the UK

    We're probably still a ways off from that here, motorways aren't saturated with chargers yet

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,534 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    As others said just don't leave it above around 80% for days and you'll be fine.

    Range can suffer when doing a lot of short hops in winter because the car cools down and has to be warmed up every time.

    Doesn't really make a difference to battery life but it does mean the GOM range can end up being pessimistic

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,858 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    No issue whatsoever. Less hassle than diesel in this instance as no filters, EGR, DPF etc

    Just don’t leave it sitting there at 100% for those few days.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,858 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I thought you can keep the receipt to get back through without paying?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    Not sure how you would do that - there are no human beings at the ramps back onto the motorway. I use an Eflow tag and it has never done it automatically for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Two weeks ago I did this. Pressed the assistance button on the unmanned toll and said I went through the main westbound toll earlier, he asked did I have a receipt, I said yes (expecting to have to call our a number of something) and he said ok grand and opened the barrier. I don't know if he could see me holding the receipt through a camera

    Wouldn't have known about it if it wasn't for someone mentioning on here a while back



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,858 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I just see so many people post it. I don’t use them and have no experience but it’s posted so much.

    Edit. Post above explains it better. It’s commonly known that if you come off to use them you can get back through for free.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,321 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    if you pass through the same toll both in the same direction within 3 hours of initially passing through that you don’t have to pay again apparently.

    (This only applies to tolls that you can pass twice like Enfield if you come off the ramp for the hotel and then rejoin the motorway and has the slip road booth)

    Post edited by AndyBoBandy on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,534 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Yeah I got stung by that years ago on the M4, was trying to get to the Applegreen there for petrol and Google maps sent me off the motorway to a field behind the motorway services. Has to go back to the toll gates at the ramp and if course they're unmanned, so ended up paying twice

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    At the risk of going off topic talking about tolls, I'm in the UK at the moment and when I mentioned that 1) I had to pay four tolls on my route West / East (Ballinasloe, Enfield, M50, Port tunnel) 2) There are no longer any EV toll price reductions, I was greeted with amazement that I would travel a route that would cost so much....any form of tolls on the roads are not acceptable in the UK it seems.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭wassie


    I quote often have to do that route but with a toll also at Rings End - 10 tolls across the day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,534 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    So an interesting experience I've had recently regarding destination chargers

    Went to several campsites over the past few months and did lots of driving and sightseeing around the area. One campsite had AC chargers, the other didn't and I was reliant on DC charging nearby

    I will say that surviving on DC charging is definitely doable, it's a bit more head wrecking. I found I wasn't at a low enough SoC to get max speed so it took 20-30 mins to get to 80%

    I probably could have charged less to speed things up but I didn't want to leave myself short for the next day and hadn't really planned where we were going next

    Having AC chargers onsite was a good but easier, just plug in when you get back to the campsite. Only real hassle (other than chargers not working) is having to delay wine time until the car is charged

    So I'd probably still book accommodation that has a charger over one that doesn't, all else being equal. But I certainly wouldn't avoid an area just because there's no destination charging

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,493 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Would you not just leave the car charging overnight? That's what AC destination charge points are for. And then you can enjoy your wine time straight away 😁

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    It should have, you have (i think) a 3hr reentry window going the same direction

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,534 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Well the campsite (Domaine Des Ormes) had 3 phase chargers so the car was typically done after 4-5 hours

    There were 6 chargers onsite so plenty to go around, but there were also a decent number of EVs (all Irish) looking to charge so didn't want to hog one

    If they were slower chargers I'd probably have just left the car

    Don't worry, wine time still happened after picking the car up 😁

    EDIT: I forgot to mention, I wasn't charging the full battery every time. Typically had around 40% when I plugged in and charged to 80% because at 44c/kWh why spend any extra 😱

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭innrain


    After driving on Italian motorways I said I'll never complain about Irish tolls. On two stretches I paid once 36 and once 25 plus some meager 2-3 quids at some bypasses. In fairness crossing mountains and such but still. The tolls costed more than renting the car for the day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭funnyname


    change of plans as we have an additional passenger who isn't a great traveller so gonna go with a stop at the Circle K stop on the M6 just after Athlone. I see they have plenty of ESB and Ionity chargers, we hope to hot there for 10ish so hopefully there will be plenty free. I've registered with both and add my CC card details and also for Tesla as well so I think I'm well covered. We won't spare it on the road tomorrow so will be interesting to see if we need one or two charges.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Mach Two


    When you say the car cools down do you mean the cabin of the car or drive mechanism i.e. "the engine".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,330 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,392 ✭✭✭zg3409


    If you drive lots of short trips in an EV then the energy used per trip will be somewhat high. The car will try heat cabin quickly, each time and the estimated range shown on the car will be lower as it will assume all trips will be like that. If you charge your EV battery once a week you will be fine, the actual cost to fill the EV will be much cheaper than petrol or diesel but with lots of short trips the fuel cost savings may only be hundreds of euro per year compared to thousands of euro for those with a long daily commute. Short trips don't do any harm to the car nor battery.



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