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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    That will actually suit them, what we do know is, the media will do absolutely no vetting of the candidate, we'll all be told how amazing and fresh this new candidate is…how energized it#s made the whole party…etc etc Goebbles himself would be proud (a bit like how they managed to avoid Bidens state over the last few years)…I remember reading an article in Time magazine about that election denier Stacy Abrahams, you'd swear she could levitate after reading it!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    If they had any sense, there'd be a gentlemen's agreement that whoever runs would have a positive campaign and don't disparage their opponents. Open vote at convention and complete unity behind the winning candidate.

    I still think this election is winnable for the Democrats but they really have to put their election engine in high gear and drive it hard. Trump and Vance on the same ticket will polarise a lot of undecideds on election day. A decent candidate with a unified party and message should put up a good fight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,015 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Vance will do a Lance Vance at the first opportunity, expect the knife in the back to come quick if Trump starts doddering during his second term.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,736 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The alternative is clearly worse though. Biden is clearly in fairly rapid decline and many suspect he probably has Parkinson's. It's unlikely he could even finish out his term if elected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,927 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Obama didn't say he's senile... I think most of us have simply recognised he's not suited to another 4 years. I'd say his tenure as president will overall be viewed rather positively though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    If this continuing war in the ME doesn't escalate

    Biden administration keeping it going with weapons supplies



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,930 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    That is a mistake. Israel have enough weapons. Its very bad optics for Biden to be supplying more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,459 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Goes back to what I said previously. There should have been a planned handover of power to someone for the past year or two. Get them the exposure they needed on a national level.

    Now it's panic stations as the Democrats now know the Biden cannot win.

    They spent too long worrying about Trump than looking at their own patch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Not a reliable source obviously, but judging from Biden’s behaviour I wouldn’t be surprised if true. Biden part starts at 3:20



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,413 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Will be interesting to see the administrations reaction to the ICJ ruling just announced concerning the middle east question.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    You are right, but we are where we are

    Best we can hope for now is that

    Biden goes, Harris becomes president for few months, open races are held at the D convention and any primaries are rushed, money is moved to whoever is nominated and all democrats fall behind the new candidate (who I hope is not Harris)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,736 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Biden doesn't need to resign from the Presidency to drop out of the race though. He just needs to announce he is no longer seeking the nomination, but could still stay on as President until January 2025 (doing that would have little impact on the Democrats selecting their new candidate…..LBJ for example chose not to go forward for a second term in 1968).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    I know, I’m just thinking how he could handle and placate the Harris supporters who seem more interested in her running (even tho she polls even worse than Biden) than democrats wining the election



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,736 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I think he remaining as President could work in her favour - but he would really have to endorse her. It would look bad if she went forward for the nomination seemingly without his backing and support.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,260 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    As I read online, Joe should step down and Harris then becomes the 47th president. It'll ruin all Trump's merch....

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,931 ✭✭✭eire4


    IMHO Buttigeg offers little. He is from Indiana which is hardcore Republican so he doesn't even offer his own state. Going with Whitmer offers them a good chance at winning Michigan a key battle ground state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,260 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I'd be quite happy with Whitmer. Just wondering would be a step too far, (two women) for some Americans. Then for those, one woman is probably one too many.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,931 ✭✭✭eire4


    Well for some yes sure but the Mysoginists are already voting Republican anyway so I don't see it as an issue. Regardless IMHO the key for the Democrats is they pick a VP who can deliver a state they need and Whitmer in Michigan seems the best fit in that regard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,212 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Of course, this has nothing to do with that though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,260 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Elaine Karmack member DNC rules committee: Delegates are expected to vote for the person they’re pledged to. But the convention rules contain a loophole, she said. “The loophole ‘is in all good conscience’. 



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  • Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ah come on, that Parkinson thing was a rumour debunked by his own doctor. I personally don't mind who beats Trump as long as somebody does, but I see no evidence that Harris would get a big bump as a presidential candidate just because she's not Joe Biden. Newson comes with a whole lot of baggage. Not being in the US I don't know who else would have the kind of name recognition to be able to jump in to the race at this stage. It's a gamble being mostly based on polls that proved to be very unreliable in the recent past. Polls are a snapshot in time anyway, they are not good indicators of what's going to happen in 3 months time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy


    Re: Biden's intern's moonlighting onto his twitter accounts.

    I find it embarrassing and fraudulent.

    I know it's std practice these days for anyone in the spotlight but **** me, with Biden, it's quite clear that he's utterly unable for it.

    I doubt he's ever logged onto twitter.

    Todays voting generations have their head stuck up their arse.

    It's not good for democracy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Lol the game's not over yet after trumps speech. Threads gone awfully quiet. Cue all the Biden stans coming back saying he's the best candidate, nothing wrong with him, "dark brandon" (cringe) etc etc. If he doesn't step down this weekend of course. Then they knew all along, best president ever etc etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,665 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I don’t know what medical condition Biden has or doesn’t have but I’ve experienced enough serious medical conditions with elderly relatives and family over the last 30 years to know that something “wasn’t right”.

    My personal view is that he is displaying a level of dementia type symptoms at this point simply because of some of the observed behaviours over the last year.

    Doesn’t matter if my “diagnosis” around the name for his condition is wrong, the observed behaviours are concerning enough and need an open and honest discussion with the American people.

    I found it extraordinary how the democrats tried to keep his condition, whatever it is, out of the public domain- that’s not democracy.

    And it doesn’t at all bode well if Trump arrives in the Whitehouse next year- the Democrats have simply shown the way forward on how to keep the condition of the Presidents health and well being out of the public domain, not for a short period which is mostly justifiable, but for a very long time- the American people deserve better and I hope they start shouting for change in this area.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,927 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    She's made it clear she has no interest in running in politics so name dropping her is just more random at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,260 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "I found it extraordinary how the democrats tried to keep his condition, whatever it is, out of the public domain- that’s not democracy.

    And it doesn’t at all bode well if Trump arrives in the Whitehouse next year- the Democrats have simply shown the way forward on how to keep the condition of the Presidents health and well being out of the public domain"

    It would appear that you have the medical condition "amnesia", as Trump's first doctor admitted to lying about Trump's medical condition, and his second one said;

    “I told the president that if he had a healthier diet over the last 20 years, he might live to be 200 years old"

    This is the same Jackson that..

    "was quietly demoted from his rank of Rear Admiral after a scathing DOD investigation into allegations of misconduct".

    Hypocrisy once again.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,282 ✭✭✭✭briany


    The recent story of Pelosi's conversation with Biden show that Biden's defiance over calls to leave the race is largely based on being in a bubble of bad information. Pelosi apparently told Biden that the polls showed he couldn't win. Biden responded by saying he had polling that showed he could. Pelosi asked to see it, but Biden (or rather one of his campaign staffers) could not produce it.

    We were told once upon a time that the Republican party would get destroyed by Trump. This is half true. It did get destroyed by Trump but in the way a larval parasite eats its host. A new party has emerged from the destruction which displays a notable political agility because they aren't trying to play by the rules, which is a huge advantage, especially since the penalties for not doing so seem to amount to a weak tap on the wrist.

    Meanwhile, the Democrats have stagnated to an unbelievable degree. It probably shouldn't be a surprise that Biden has been getting bad info since they're a party so inured to their party hierarchy that who's going to tell him different. Seems like the Democratic is also about to be destroyed by Trump and, like the Republican party of old, they will deserve it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,665 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Whatever physical medical condition Trump may or may not have had wasn’t as bleeding obvious as the one Biden has now and has had for some time.
    His personality traits were clear for all to see - we didn’t need a clinical psychiatrists report on those -if you still decided to vote for the man then sorry youre not a particularly good judge of character would be my view.

    he’s still alive today so obviously he had nothing life threatening to be concerned about, over and above the average old man in the street.

    Rightly or wrongly, Trump is already facing accusations of early onset dementia in some quarters - if he gets into office, clearly we’ll never be told of this very important detail - so at best we can say Democrats and Republicans are equally as bad at hiding such details from the public - there’s no party coming out looking well on this point that’s for sure



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,568 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    What information is Pelosi privy to that suggests someone else will win?

    Biden has been reported having asked several times can Kamala win, the resounding answer has been no.

    I have no doubt Joe will step aside but it will be messy, not as messy as trying to get Kamala to do likewise.

    So is it a case the Pelosi rocked up to Joe telling him he couldn't win but could not provide a credible alternative scenario where someone else will?

    Joe Biden stepping down is just the start of a whole heap of new problems, unless the Democratic hierarchy have a plan in place. Which they probably don't.



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