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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,015 ✭✭✭✭PsychoPete


    I was talking about individuals like Joy Reid that are so deluded and brainwashed by their Trump hatred that they'll try convince themselves a man that can't even string a sentence together is the right man to run a country



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,424 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    There have definitely been media people who are in total denial about Biden's obvious decline, but they do appear to be a shrinking minority.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭rogber


    Guardian reporting it's only a matter of time now till Biden announces he's not running.

    So will it be Harris?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,887 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    IWT an others options would mean a contested convention. That's not a good look, for what should be a cohesive campaign launch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,571 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    there never has been a “cohesive campaign launch”- that’s the problem



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Not sure she'd have the backing or popular support.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,887 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Not the problem. It's desirable but it's all about having the right ticket and the right policies to win the people. Dems will win by numbers but to win the Presidency, a young candidate wins. The Rest is Politics US, made the point that a number of one term Presidents were beaten by younger rivals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,571 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “Energy” doesn’t mean youth- it can come from experience too - but Biden, as much as I respected him over the years, ran out of energy - and developed other human challenges too for a man his age- I wouldn’t advocate a 78 year old president either though regardless of “energy” - maybe ok tomorrow but maybe not the next day - there's enough experienced politicians but younger in years to take on this role on both sides - we don’t want another Reagan 2nd term - spitting image has been there and done that - we know the road ahead if either of these two get elected - but history sometimes repeats itself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,424 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Perhaps not right now, but that could easily change in the next few months.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭carveone


    Up to last week I would have agreed that maybe the Dems had the numbers and the race would be close. But not now. I was very surprised by the pick of JD Vance as running mate. I think that's just an inspired move and the fact that neocons like Cheney are incensed means it's the right one imo. Anything that annoys the neoconservatives is just fine with me.

    He's 39 and he served in Iraq and he's dovish on foreign policy. He's not perfect by any means but he's notable and I think he will draw normally Democrat voters who don't even know what their party is doing any more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,370 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Portweather


    is it good timing for Biden to pull the plug when the republicans are having their convention? It really will split the coverage over the weekend and might piss the republicans off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,322 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Not the question I asked.

    Is Obama a medical professional?

    No he is not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,873 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Well just popped in to say I told you so. When I said almost a year ago that Biden was mentally gone and needed to step down or Trump would when I was accused of defending a rapist. Now Obama comes out and says what most of us new ages ago, that Biden is senile and incapable of being president suddenly those people are doing a 180.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,631 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    This is all very unsavoury, I don't recall anything like this in my lifetime anyway….

    The press are out undermining him which is clearly orchestrated, his own party are undermining him, what we are witnessing is genuinely ugly. What's ever uglier is that these people were all covering up for him for the last 4 years which too was all orchestrated, they've turned on him in the most public and vicious manner….and what's more, anyone with half a brain could see this coming, he was never going to be able for a campaign let alone win one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭blackcard


    I think he will be gone by Monday. The only decision now is on who will be the Democratic candidate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,424 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Speculation late this evening that Biden will step down as soon as Sunday, to be followed by an open convention in August to pick the nominee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,322 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    A bit mad if they go down that route. It is bound to create division, but it will only mean they will have just over 2 and a bit months to campaign on whoever this person is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Bookies don't seem to think it's much of a question…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,669 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Yes, pronouns are where elections are won and lost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Screenshot_20240719-120948_Firefox.jpg

    I am completely aware that this is the setup for slagging off Musk in the next post, but I really don't think was properly thought through by his team because that is all that shows up in my feed unless I click it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    I remember reading several months ago that Biden might pick a different running mate, such was the disregard for Harris. So, I don't know how the Democratic party will square the circle that makes her electable as the main candidate.

    Presuming Biden steps back shortly and the Democrats have an open vote at convention, wouldn't she be easily beaten by Newsome, Whitmer or A.N Other?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭rogber


    Or maybe they should try Oprah? I'm sure she could end both the Ukraine war and solve the Middle East in one day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,460 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    I think it likely that if in fact Biden steps back, at the convention there's no opposition to Harris. The Democratic party knows its WH and downballot chances will hang by a thread as soon as Biden decides to run, and the last thing they need is a nasty nomination event with hard feelings left over.

    Of course, the Democrats are the party of shooting themselves in the foot, though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭NeutralHandle


    Of the names being thrown about for a new candidate, Michelle Obama is the only one who seems like she might win, the way things are right now.

    I had thought Newsom seemed like a contender. But part of that was just being tall. Trump looks somewhat diminutive beside him. (This isn't nonsense - the taller candidate usually wins, and I think Trump's ability to dominate people appeals to a lot of people.)

    However, Trumps belligerent reaction to a bullet going through his ear, along with the most iconic, pseudo-revolutionary, movie poster like photo means he is out-machoing anyone right now. So a different tack is needed.

    In a poll about potential democrat candidates before the debate and the shooting, Michelle Obama was the only person who was projected to beat Trump. I still think she would have a good chance now. I don't think others would. I think this is possibly the thoughts of many in the democratic party. If so, the question is how to get her to step up.

    I guess it would also be a snub to Harris. But it would be the difference between fielding a reasonable candidate and trying to win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,333 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Maybe the Dems can do another Obama and find Arnie a US birth cert. ! Lol!

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,460 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    He's a registered Republican!

    Though, he meets the age criteria - sadly, Arnie's old, 76.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,631 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    A childs welfare is normally something parents concern themselves with!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,631 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    That will actually suit them, what we do know is, the media will do absolutely no vetting of the candidate, we'll all be told how amazing and fresh this new candidate is…how energized it#s made the whole party…etc etc Goebbles himself would be proud (a bit like how they managed to avoid Bidens state over the last few years)…I remember reading an article in Time magazine about that election denier Stacy Abrahams, you'd swear she could levitate after reading it!!!



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