World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) Files

Are you for real trying to pass off one person calling the ban terrible as a game changer of some sort, The BMA is a trade union, the person calling the ban terrible is a junior doctor specialising in mental health and yes we are to assume they are not authorative in all medical matters, they may have expertise in specific matters but unlikely to be gender dyasporia experts that do not require outside expertise.

It will be given as much credibility as SIPTU giving an opinion on brain surgery, I hope you are right and they show they are willing to use children to experiment to further an ideology which has been destroyed in the last 12 months.

They are a trade union, SIPTU is a representative body for their members, do you get the similarities?

Here's a few quotes from people put on puberty blockers who later went on to detransition. It's a horror show and it will all come crashing down very soon when more and more individuals speak out. This is what you are advocating for under the guise of "being kind". I don't know how anyone can justify creating stunted child like adults who will never be able to reach their full potential, physically or mentally

Because of puberty blockers(started before natural Puberty) my penis and testicles never developed the proper growth (they actually shrunk substantially and irreversibly from childlike to full on infant like) yes I want to die just typing out this painful truth. Because I was never exposed to my body’s natural hormones and instead put on synthetic cross sex hormones soon after blockers. When I was 18 and started the process to get a vaginoplasty, I was told that I simply didn’t have the anatomy needed to create a neovagina because my puberty was stopped and I never gave my body the chance to fully grow.

I basically have a micro penis and testicles and do not have enough “material” to do anything reasonable with it. I was told they could give me a neovagina but it would only be aesthetic. I would have effectively ZERO vaginal depth, I’d be lucky if they could even make it look like there was an “entry”. I saw two different surgeons in two different states for a second opinion. One said I could basically have a Barbie vagina, it would look aesthetically pleasing but never be functional. I also have never and will NEVER achieve orgasm.

This is an incredibly HARD and embarrassing and awful thing to explain but it’s the truth and I find it important to tell all the ugly parts

now have to live with the body I destroyed forever. I will never go through my full female puberty. I will never experience my teenage years as a girl and I will forever be harmed by a choice I should NEVER have been allowed to make. I just don't know if I can live with it and it haunts me every waking moment

My transition was different than most in that I was put on hormone blockers when I was very young, right as I started puberty (11?), and then female hormones at age 14.

As you can imagine, for someone on this subreddit, the results are devastating.

I certainly appear different than most men my age. Due to the hormone blockers, I never developed past tanner stage 2. As a younger teen, my body was hairless and I had no sexual desires at all. As an adult now, I'm 5'3". My genitals are extremely underdeveloped, I grew breasts, I wear a men's size 5 shoe, etc...

I've come to terms with the idea of being male itself, and detransitioning, but the problem is doing it while looking the way I do now.

Most of the noise is from a trans activist on the BMA board, who is a former trade unionist and a complete political appointment.

The chairman has a pair of pride braces in his profile photo, so the chances of a non science based decision aren't zero.

Following on from the Cass report with the adults in the room watching including their insurers one would be hopefully of a reasoned decision based on the best scientific evidence available being made.

Exactly. And the detrimental effects of high testosterone levels in female bodies are well known. It's not a decision that should be made lightly and certainly not as a child

The very first paragraph of the BBC article says ….. "British Medical Association (BMA) leaders have met to discuss the approach being taken to children and young people struggling with their gender identity."

And there you have it, discussing how to medicalise a "gender identity" which isn't even a provable thing, for there are no blood tests to prove that your gender is anything other than the one you were born with. A gender (identity) is a frame of mind, its a cloak or a dress you put on, a persona that you portray to yourself and others (which is fine, no problem with that), each to their own …..

I don't however agree with giving drugs to physically healthy kids (to block their puberty) as these kids need no medical physical intetvention whatsoever! so I stand with Wes Streeting & Rosie Duffield 100% on this.

Cass must be applied and implemented across the board without question.

The release of the WPATH files and the Cass review are very powerful tools in our fight against a (very powerful) yet non scientific ideology based on feelings and thoughts of identity outside reality.

"My daughter says she feels like a boy", right, give her puberty blockers, then cross sex hormones, then at sixteen a double mastectomy, and you're nearly home!

It's like we're fighting something akin to a sinister religious belief system.

Can you please explain how you know it is extremely rare? Tavistock did not do any follow up study on the thousands of children who passed through its doors despite the head of Tavistock acknowledging what they were doing was completely experimental. The only study done in Tavistock was on what happened after puberty blockers were given, 98% of children went onto cross sex hormones. We only know this because a court order was made obliging Tavistock to publish the study for the common good, they did not want to publish the study because it completely obliterated the "pause" to decide narrative.