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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • #11102
    CoBo55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,463 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122362258#Comment_122362258

    Free lectric☺️, a true self charging hybrid 😏



  • #11103
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,769 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122363354#Comment_122363354

    It does happen though, wonder what the explanation is?



  • #11104
    CoBo55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,463 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122363932#Comment_122363932

    The only explanation I can think of is that the car is charging the battery a small bit when running on petrol. I did have that option on the Superb but it was heavy on petrol so I rarely used it.



  • #11105
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,534 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122363932#Comment_122363932

    Bottom balancing the battery. The SoC will drop to zero when one of the cells drops below 2.5V or something

    The remaining cells will be at a higher voltage so the BMS will start balancing the cells

    This will recharge the lowest cell so the BMS will think there's some useable charge in the battery

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #11106
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,534 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122364056#Comment_122364056

    I think BMW PHEVs will use the petrol engine to charge the battery when in sport mode. It'll charge up to around 20% so you can then use the petrol and electric motor combined

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • #11107
    CoBo55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,463 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122364135#Comment_122364135

    The Superb did the same.



  • #11108
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,495 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122364135#Comment_122364135

    Yeah, it sucks. If only BMW would have allowed for max torque from the electric motor at least from zero, the i PHEV cars that are combined petrol and electric would have been winners. Now they are losers. I love the i8. 0-60 time of just 3.7s, which is Ferrari quick, convinced me to buy but in real life it is rather slow compared to really fast EVs. I know I am spoilt that way, but a combustion car, even the fastest ever combustion car ever in the world, would never excite me again.

    And I would urge anyone out there not to buy a new combustion performance car either because soon everyone else will find out too and their value will drop

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #11109
    yer man!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭yer man!


    Has anyone here used the Gridserve network over in the UK?

    Used it last week next to Gatwick, got 60kw/h of electricity into the rental car before dropping back, tapped using phone and it charged the £1 hold but it still hasn’t charged me for the actual electricity.



  • #11110
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,534 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122375818#Comment_122375818

    Fill er up and run! 😂

    Same thing happens at Ionity City North sometimes, seems to take a while to take the money from your account

    I've never been 100% sure but I think the chargers try to sync at the end of each charging session, which occasionally fails due to dodgy internet connections. This is why your holding charge is still there but you haven't been charged for the electricity you took

    I'm guessing they're also recording the sessions to a local audit log which then syncs later when the connection is restored

    At some point some backend software passes the audit logs for any sessions that weren't reported as closed and when there is one (like your case) then it'll bill the session accordingly

    To be clear, I've no knowledge of how these chargers work, I'm just guessing based on some knowledge of vaguely similar software

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #11111
    joujoujou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,330 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    ^^Similar thing happened to ms jou almost 2 years ago. Car charged at Ikea car park. Have no clue what network the charger belongs to, but, until now, they did not take money from her account.



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  • #11112
    CMOTDibbler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,830 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    Had similar with a newly opened EasyGo charger a few weeks ago. Charged on it just to check that it was actually operational and the app tells me that the cost was €0.00. Waiting for the other shoe to drop. 😁



  • #11113
    deepimpact
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭deepimpact


    I charged on an EasyGo charger in Lidl Charleville last year and the same thing happened. Charge was about 25kWh.

    They never registered the charge until about 2 weeks afterwards and I got the notification that the account was charged.



  • #11114
    jlang
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭jlang


    Seems to quite regularly be a week or two later before the email detailing the charge comes through. We don't charge away from home that often so it's usually clear which session is which but if you were to charge regularly at different sites, sorting the receipts out after the fact must be a nuisance.



  • #11115
    CMOTDibbler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,830 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122379464#Comment_122379464

    The apps keep a record of your charging sessions and costs.



  • #11116
    cannco253
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭cannco253


    I've used Ionity Athlone a fair bit over the last 2 months, ID.4 plug and charge works great there.

    I saw an email from VW/We Charge that they now bill you the following month for any charging sessions, so the days of late billing are over for Ionity anyway…



  • #11117
    funnyname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭funnyname


    We have an MG ZS for 4 months, 7,000km clocked up but only ever charged at home by zappi. Current 100% GOM is giving about 480km.

    We're going to Dublin on Sunday for the All-Ireland final.

    We'll be travelling up the M6, any suggestions as to where to charge en route, we'll be stopping for food in both directions.

    I was thinking the Tesla superchargers in Johnstown or Enfield services.



  • #11118
    funnyname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭funnyname


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122391228#Comment_122391228

    Also which services should I sign up to in advance, Ionity, ESB, Tesla, anyone else?



  • #11119
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,863 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122391228#Comment_122391228

    Enfield is open to non Teslas so aim for that.
    download the Tesla app for use.



  • #11120
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    You might as well sign up to ESB pay as you go, it's inevitable you will use them at some stage and their infrastructure grows by the week.

    In 7+ years of EV driving I've never used Ionity

    My stuff on Adverts, mostly Tesla Pre Highland Model 3

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  • #11121
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,321 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122391228#Comment_122391228

    Tesla Supercharger Enfield all day long… 6 chargers all up to 250kW, and the hotel serve lovely food.

    An inbound top up here gets you in and out of the city comfortably and a top up again on the return trip home will see you through….

    I wouldn’t stop in Enfield services…. Last time I was there I had to wade through piss to get to the toilets… Johnstown House is a lovely hotel with great bar food and clean facilities.



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  • #11122
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,495 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122391616#Comment_122391616

    In fairness that is because at first you had EVs, that couldn't use Ionity. And then you had Teslas, that didn't need Ionity 😁

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #11123
    funnyname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭funnyname


    Perfect, thanks a million for the suggestions

    Stupid question but I presume my DC connection is compatible with the superchargers? Also what rate of charge (Charging: 1 phase AC: 7.2 kW max. 3 phase AC: 11 kW max. DC: 75/94 kW max (SR/LR)) should I be looking at when connected, it's a LR model so will I get close to the 94kW and after the drive from Clare should the battery be warm enough for optimum speed?



  • #11124
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,321 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122391970#Comment_122391970

    V3 Superchargers (Enfield & Athenry, and Cork/sandyford) are CCS2 so fully compatible with your car…

    Look up your cars charging curve on EV database, but as the V3 Superchargers put out 250kW, your car will be the limiting factor, not the charger, so if you arrive with a warm battery and low SoC% you’d see the full 94kW initially.

    The car should be warm enough after that drive, but you’d probably want to be below 20% to see the headline speeds, and the speed will taper down as the battery fills up (charging curve)



  • #11125
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,321 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    also, if you are in having food, the car could be well finished charging before you’re finished eating, so make sure to be aware of when it stops charging to move it as Tesla charge €1/min for overstaying…

    ESB will give you a slap on an ass cheek for overstaying, but Tesla will remove your pants and violate you for doing same.



  • #11126
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,321 ✭✭✭✭josip


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122392247#Comment_122392247

    They do allow you one free transgression before penalising you though.



  • #11127
    innrain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭innrain


    Fastned has lots of charging curves but unfortunately not for your model. Here is a link for different MG models

    https://www.fastnedcharging.com/en/brands-overview/mg

    As you can see the charging power is not flat during the charge.

    As to why and what affects it a quite interesting read is here

    https://www.fastnedcharging.com/en/stories/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-fast-charging



  • #11128
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,863 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122392247#Comment_122392247

    And rightly so. 👍



  • #11129
    witnessmenow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122391228#Comment_122391228

    I think Tesla enfield is probably the best option. for westbound make sure you get a reciept at the toll as you'll come up to another toll booth as you try get back on the M6. If you press the button just say you've already been through the main toll going westbound , they just asked had I reciept and I said I did and they opened the barrier. Not sure what the situation is eastbound

    Enfield services I assume is Applegreen? The Westbound one has only one charger anyways so I wouldn't be betting on that being available. It's an applegreen one so if you do want to use you can either sign up for the applegreen app or you can pay slightly more using a regular card. Don't know what eastbound is like.

    Another option I don't see mentioned much is Kinnegad service station, it seems to have 8 200Kw ESB chargers (pay with the ESB app) and there is a supermacs there if that is more the kind of food your fancying. Tesco and aldi are quite close to it too so you could pick up some stuff for eating in the car if you wanted to save a few quid.

    The service station at Moate/Athlone has a mcdonalds and a few other food options, I believe the chargers there are Ionity. I'm not far from there so its too close for me to be bothered stopping so I've never used it for the EV.



  • #11130
    munsterfan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 536 ✭✭✭munsterfan2


    Travelling up from Cork the day of the Kerry q/f and the 6 x chargers on the M7 (Kilcullen I think ) were full, and the service station was jammers inside.



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  • #11131
    zg3409
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,398 ✭✭✭zg3409


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122391228#Comment_122391228

    I expect mayhem at all services for all Ireland. I would stop early and if all chargers are busy move on to next site etc. There is a risk for the peak all Ireland commute traffic everything will be full everywhere. Parking at Dublin may also be an issue.

    Tesla is an option but beware to download app in advance and learn how to use the app to charge a non Tesla. Also make sure you have ESB ecars app with an account set up etc. Give yourself lots of time. Maybe try charging when at 30% or less, but I would stop early and often and skip in use sites. If you passenger checks the apps they can see if all chargers are in use and for how long so you can keep going.



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